/prog/ - Why aren't you using Vim?

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-20 13:03

Why aren't you using Vim for all of your text editing needs?

Using Vim (or Emacs if you're a macfag) literally allows you to get better at editing text with time. Time spent with the editor gains rent.

Compare this to using an IDE, you will always be as good at editing text as you were when you first started. The ability to get better at editing text doesn't exist with IDEs.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-21 17:29

>>39
Remap caps lock to control.
But it's already mapped to <ESC>!

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-21 18:03

>>41
I use emacs regularly and I've never used <ESC>.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-21 18:12

>>41
Remap it to control and just use ^[

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-21 18:13

>>42
The ! was meant to be a hint. Oh well, I know some people will get the joke.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-21 18:15

>>44
Terrible!

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-21 18:17

You know what would be great? An IDE with a Vim-like editing mode. But I guess that could be easily replaced by Vim with a few good plugins.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-21 18:23

>>45
If only you knew what that means.

>>46
Yeah, in practice that's what happens. The major downside is Vim starts running slowly. Syntastic + colorscheme seems to equate to 2 reparses on change.

Does anyone know if vi mode in emacs is any good?

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-21 18:37

>>34
Are you saying that Vim is stupid because it doesn't have autocomplete or code-completion?

If so, you are probably relying on the above too much. Past that, both Vim and Emacs can autocomplete and code-complete while still having superior editing capabilities than whatever IDE you are currently using.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-21 18:40

Does anyone know if vi mode in emacs is any good?
It's about as good as trying to compile C with a Java compiler, and it's about as slow as reimplementing ed in Java every time you want to edit some text.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-21 18:55

>>49
I've heard people talk about it and complain most about the plugins they no longer have. I think I could re-implement some of these more easily in elisp than fixing the speed issues in poorly written vimscript.

As much as I love vim, it seems arbitrary a lot of the time. And I'm not sure if vimscript is just slow or if people suck at writing parsers in it. I see people writing state machines, which should be fairly fast. I'd rather see a built-in parser (maybe with DSOs?) though, so writing a colorscheme could amount to little more than picking some colors.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-21 18:59

>>50
Vimscript sucks. Use vi instead.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-21 19:03

>>51
vi is shit. Seriously shit. Vim or bust.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-21 19:04

>>52
You've obviously never used real vi. http://ex-vi.sf.net/ or bust.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-21 19:07

>>53
Oh, I've used it. I'd rather fuck the dog.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-21 19:14

>>54
back to /g/, please.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-21 19:16

>>55
I will, along with my job.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-21 19:24

>>56
Browsing [spoiler]/prog/[/prog] at work? I don't believe you have a job. Enjoy your hand.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-21 19:26

>>57
You must be new here.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-21 19:31

>>57
He already admitted to being a /g/tard, and promised to go back there. He probably works at McDonald's.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-21 19:32

>>59
So must you.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-21 19:47

My dog uses real vi
How does he fuck?
Terrible!

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-21 20:01

My favorite IDE is Dreamweaver.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-21 20:30

>>57,59
Send my best to /g/, newfriends!

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-22 9:01

>>61
lol ur dog's ded

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-22 11:27

Why aren't you using Unix as your IDE?

http://blog.sanctum.geek.nz/unix-as-ide-introduction/

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-22 19:32

>>65
Unix is a great IDE, it just needs a better operating system!

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-22 20:36

>>66
That's what EMACS is for.

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