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Estonian school kids learn programming

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-05 19:53

http://venturebeat.com/2012/09/04/estonia-code-academy/
Estonia is implementing a new education program that will have 100 percent of publicly educated students learning to write code.
ProgreTiiger education will start with students in the first grade, which starts around the age of 7 or 8 for Estonians. The compsci education will continue through a student’s final years of public school...

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-05 20:23

cool. programming is very important today. today's programs in goevernment are more effective than any old law passed by politicians.

great move for estonian people.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-05 20:35

Meanwhile, nobody in Estonia can afford a computer.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-05 20:55

computers are fucking cheap. not eveyone wants or care to have an apple notebook

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-05 21:08

Rather than truly teaching kids about computers, we’re teaching them to see the machines and programs as mysterious tools
We conjure the spirits of the computer with our spells

But seriously they need to do this right and I don't like how it doesn't give any real details on the program, god knows they're going to be shoving FIOC or BASIC or something equally useless and shitty which will just make them hate programming. If they ain't teaching them LISP, it's shit.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-05 21:19

Why are normal neurotypical kids supposed to learn how to program? This makes no sense at all.

This would be like teaching architectural design at school.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-05 23:33

>>5
I started with BASIC and that didn't keep me from learning functional programming and Lisp. "What you know about computing other people will learn."¹

>>6
Programming is fun. "I hope the field of computer science never loses its sense of fun."¹

1. Alan J Perlis

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-05 23:37

>>6
They totally had mandatory programming classes in SERIAL EXPERIMENTS LAIN

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-06 1:36

>>7
Programming is fun.
Here, have some Java, dicklover.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-06 1:42

>>5
They will teach them practical knowledge on how to write robust ransomware using Visual Basic .NET

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-06 6:31

>>9
I'm so sorry to read that you can't work in Java. I'm sure there's some tablet you can take to increase your brainpower to process Java code.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-06 8:35

>>9
Really?
What a poser.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-06 8:36

SHITPOSER

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-06 9:15

>>7
It's not fun for neurotypical kids, and some people aren't even cut out for programming.

>>8
Yup, Lain. Lain.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-06 9:35

>>7
Trains, buses and transportation are great sources of fun for autists, but not for the neurotypical crowd. What's your point?

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-06 9:38

>>15
Programming is also fun for neurotypical people.

>>14
No. No.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-06 10:56

>>16
I don't think so.

Well, at least the people in most Programming 101 courses don't like it.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-06 12:00

"programming" class will actually be "learn this shitty proprietary software based on paradigm-de-jour". It'll do more harm than good, we'll just end up something a bit like math where everything "hates" programming despite being utterly clueless about it.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-06 12:05

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-06 14:01

>>5
Lisp
GC is shit.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-06 19:06

>>19

I hope that never happens to programming.

Maybe I should study Architecture in school instead of EECS...

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-06 22:32

>>20
SegmentationFault
C a undefined shit

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-07 21:50

>>21
I decided I would switch majors and start pursuing my new civil engineering major, since I'm tired of the [b][i]ENTERPRISE[/i][/b] bullshit and I've always been a transport autist.

Let's switch majors together, >>21-kun.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-07 21:52

programming is not something someone should be encouraged to go into professionally. it's extremely boring and extremely unrewarding, probably the worst profession one could have.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-07 21:55

>>24
I've been using computers since I was very young. That's why I thought it would be a good idea to enroll in a computer related major.

I was wrong, all I found was exactly the stuff I don't like to do with computers, like ``le software engineering XD java" and ``le cloud XD".

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-07 22:51

>>25
What exactly were you expecting?

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-07 22:54

>>26
Hardcore math, assembly hacking, video games, writing an OS in Haskell and all that cool stuff probably.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-07 23:01

>>27
You should have went to Berkeley master race, ``faggot''.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-07 23:02

>>27
That's computer science. Software engineering is a different discipline.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-08 2:18

Computer "Science"
Software "Engineering"

No.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-08 13:59

[quote]science (noun): a department of systematized knowledge as an object of study[/quote]
Yes.

[quote]engineering (noun)
a : the application of science and mathematics by which the properties of matter and the sources of energy in nature are made useful to people
b : the design and manufacture of complex products[quote]
Yes.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-08 15:48

>>26
Actually, it has to do with the peculiar "computer engineering" programs in my country. Our "computer engineering" includes lot of math (fun), intermediate programming (fun while it lasted), and ENTERPRISE development + economics + PROJECT MANAGEMENT + USE CASES + UML (not fun at all).

I expected >>27, but got a weird mixture between computer engineering, computer science, software engineering and code monkeying.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-08 16:25

>>12
Only people from Reddit use
Really?
Go eat a dick fartsniffer.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-08 16:55

How do you know that, >>33-kun?

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