A lot of shit posting goes on about how C++ is a clusterfuck and Lisp is crap. While I know enough about both C++ and Lisp to see that they both have their niche, it is absolutely stupid to use these languages for general purpose programming when there are better alternatives, namely Delphi, Ada and D. Although Java and C# have a well deserved reputation for being safe, they are both slow and bloated and should only be used in enterprise programming. The fact that scripting languages like Python and Ruby get promoted as general purpose languages is even more of a farce as they have to rely on 'agile' test driven development to overcome the limits of dynamic (runtime) typing. Its a shame that Delphi died out, Borland ended up selling it to Embarcadero. It couldnt compete with VB in the 90s and got drowned out by Java and C# in the 2000s. Its really a fast compiled language, as fast as C++, but a lot safer. Its quite a shame people didnt take the time to see this languages potential.
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Anonymous2012-06-26 21:47
bampu pantsu
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Anonymous2012-06-26 21:56
Ada Shit, awful to use, totally wrong. there is a reason they use this language to make flight avionics, because it is the most explicity correct and provably correct language.
Well, it was mainly the DoD's plan to mandate a one-great-language to replace COBOL, Fortran, Jules-own-Algol, some submarine language and 3-4 other ones to streamline defense source code. Its strongly typed but a rocket or two blew up over casting a float.
>>39 thats just a myth that gets perpetuated by the same people who think assembly is the fasted of all languages and no one can make a high level language run faster than assembly.
Ada is the only one that comes close to the execution speed of C++. If the shitty abstraction abilities and lack of libraries were not enough to avoid it, the government uses it. D and (especially) Pascal compile to horrendously slow code. Maybe with a commercially supported D compiler, optimization may be closer to those of C++ compilers, but I just don't see this happening. If you use one of these languages in 2012, you'll just be harming yourself or whoever has to maintain the code later. Choose C++ or Java for general purposes. Don't be that faggot who just has to use something different for the sake of being different.
PHP is a good language. It is not a perfect language because it inherits from Ada. Ada is a flawed language where many things are left undefined. Ada is an ancient artifact that serves no purpose outside of the domain of airplane codes. Because of the improvements made upon Ada to form PHP, beginning programmers and veteran programmers alike may be led astray, thinking that modern Ada usage is a good idea. It is a mistake to believe the success of PHP justifies the continued use and popularity of Ada. Just because PHP is successful does not mean the language it has inherited from is of high quality.
>>44 Maybe with a commercially supported D compiler, optimization may be closer to those of C++ compilers, but I just don't see this happening.
the D compiler I use on Linux is LLVM, incidently Apple computer also uses LLVM
>>46 Because of the improvements made upon Ada to form PHP
wow, ok, thats interesting. why dont you provide some links that support the connection between Ada and PHP, Id be very curious to see that
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Anonymous2012-06-27 0:03
"soon we'll reproduce without you and eliminate you completely." --FFP
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Anonymous2012-06-27 0:16
>>49
can somebody please cut this bitches child support payments off so she can discover what its like to actually work for a living