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Mandatory RFID Impants

Name: Anonymous 2012-04-12 18:38

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Name: Anonymous 2012-12-19 20:37

>>40
It's because ``authorities'' can't ask for your ID without any reason. With RFID, they can just scan you without your knowledge. Also, with strategically-placed receivers (e.g. at public transportation entrances or at store entrances) they can easily exact mass surveillance upon the entire population.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 1:55

>>41
Wait until the heat signature scanners are done. RFID chips will not be necessary. 2014 is the deadline before The Party day 0 begins on 2015.

TSA scanners were a snapshot of what is already being implemented. Satellite and drone w/ heat signature scanner are going to be the new police.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 2:06

>>42
Heat signature is not unique and can trivially be masked. Seriously?

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 5:25

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 6:24

>>40
You have to show the ID card. 13.56 MHz HF RFID can be read from as far as 1m, and that is the frequency used in your <b>credit cards</b>, next time you walk past me I'm gonna steal your CC. Because credit companies either <b>do not use any encryption at all sending all in plain text</b> or going the 'security through obscurity' way. I also bet RFID chips implanted would be 128 KHz and that shit can be read from even longer distances. With extremely powerful readers mounted on walls and other stationary points, even exceeding 20m same with HF ones, as long as you have powerful readers.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 6:25

>>45
fuck. this is what i get for fucking with html

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 9:38

>>45
An as EEfag who has actually made an RFID-tag reader I can safely say that you're a moron. Now the first problem of course is distance. RFID-tags work by induction, meaning you have two inductors (antennae) that are designed for a specific placement. Mine for example was designed for parallel placement. One antenna has an AC current running through it at high voltage. This induces power into the inductor in the tag. The tag then returns a signal which is received as an amplitude modulation that can be extracted with a simple envelope detector.

Now the problem with distance here is that the tag needs to be physically close in order to receive any power as the E field will decrease by something like d^4. The other is the interference. The RFID data structure is designed to carry 40 bits of information in 10 rows of 4 bits with one bit of parity per row, one bit of parity per column and one 9-bit row of ones to indicate the beginning (a sequence that can't appear anywhere else) and a single one to terminate. The first 8 bits are the customer ID and the remaining 32 are the data. This is transferred as a manchester encoded signal which means it's self-synchronizing. Now what do you think happens when you have two cards in range? They fuck up your envelope detector and you can read exactly zero of them (save for statistical luck).

The other problem with "all the stuff that will be stored on them" is that you literally have only 32 bits to do it in, which means it can barely even be used for identification, since it can't even represent every person on the planet if we're all using the same type of tag. Then there's the generational problem where 300 million people of the US will be replaced over time with new people, exhausting the system in a very short amount of time. Especially if you're reserving bits for useless shit. And you know that recycling IDs will just result in chaos.

Then of course you come to tracking. Here the gummiment would need to set up readers EVERYWHERE in order to get you. This could be done I suppose, except they'll only get a fraction of people in busy places. However when you think about it, you're already being tracked. Everywhere you use a credit card. Every time you "check in" to something. Every time you walk into a place with camera surveillance. You're being tracked fucking everywhere already. Hell the US military can get a live video feed of you from space if it's not particularly cloudy where you are.

I'm all for privacy, but this will literally have no effect on it. It is however a massive security concern if they start implementing it as persistent identification for things like banks. There can be no encryption with this shit, since encrypting the data doesn't protect it from being copied. There's no challenge-response. The correct way to crusade for privacy would be to dismantle the already existing tracking infrastructure.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 11:39

>>45

You mean credit cards with PayPass

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 14:43

>>47

[quote]Now what do you think happens when you have two cards in range? They fuck up your envelope detector and you can read exactly zero of them [/quote]
AFAIK, data is send consecutively, as of, you can't read two cards at the same time. Only one string will be read at one time interval - also depends how your reader's soft is implemented. I could be wrong on that, this is what I concluded from the different sources.

1. http://www.eng.tau.ac.il/~yash/kw-usenix06/ (note it's 100$. One can get more powerful amplifiers, 1 meter is very possible)
2. http://www.rf-dump.org/
3. http://cq.cx/proxmark3.pl
4. http://www.tombom.co.uk/extreme_rfid.pdf
5. http://people.cs.umass.edu/~kevinfu/papers/RFID-CC-manuscript.pdf
6. You can buy factory mass-produced hand-held readers with distances going as far as 15cm, working on 13.56 MHz frequency - on eBay

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 17:05

>>49
Data is sent repeatedly once a voltage is induced into the tag's coil. The entire structure of 64 bits is pumped out over and over until power is lost. Reading from 1m is totally possible, by using a high frequency. Obviously you can increase the distance by increasing the voltage with some active amplification and/or the frequency of the reader (and tag by extension). The problem then is that you won't be able to distinguish between the different tags. If you want that you need to do frequency hopping at desynchronized intervals (like 802.11 APs do), which is going to require active tags as well.

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