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Conscious AI hypothetical

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-15 23:43

Suppose we have a conscious computer program; a program which, when executed, is conscious. We save the memory states and IO from the program at every stage of its execution, and then replay each state, one by one, on a second computer, without actually executing the program. Is the second computer conscious too?

In other words, if a computer is conscious, does its consciousness derive from the instructions it executes, or from the series of states it transitions between?

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-16 11:05

>>40
s/the one that parts/the one where parts/

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-16 11:06

>>37
I'd rather say "goals" instead of "reward/motivation" system. It's more general.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-16 12:06

>>42
Goals are a lot more high-level. They exist in our neocortex, which is trained by both the environment and biased by the reward/motivational system. I'm not entirely sure we'd ever develop any goals (or do anything) without the initial stick/carrot that the old brain represents. It may not be the ideal thing for an AI to have, but for an organism living in a physical environment such as ours, it's essential.

Name: Dubs Guy 2012-03-22 13:54

DUBS, DUBS EVERYWHERE!

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-22 13:55

>>44
nice dubs bro

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-22 14:01

>>44
Dubs are a lot more high-level. They exist in our neocortex, which is trained by both the environment and biased by the reward/motivational system. I'm not entirely sure we'd ever develop any dubs (or do anything) without the initial stick/carrot that the old brain represents. It may not be the ideal thing for an AI to have, but for an organism living in a physical environment such as ours, it's essential.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-22 15:24

Learn C++11

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-22 20:17

It's actually very simple. We don't even need to define consciousness: as long as we agree that consciousness implies being able to react to stimuli from the outside world (which it does) it's obvious that the second computer isn't conscious; that would be like saying that a video of a person is conscious: even if it looks like a person, you can't ask it questions.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-22 21:06

>>48
I was going to tear you a new one for being an asshat with that "we don't need to define consciousness" BS because people follow up with something along the lines of "whatever makes us special" (or sometimes the crazy talk: "there is no difference everything is an illusion I'm not a nihilist I'm an existentialist hear me roar.")

However you're exactly right. The only thing we really can say about it is that it involves a deeply causal relationship with the subject, typically "the outside world."

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-22 22:02

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