Mathematics is shit

Just look at these ugly swatches of code:
http://www.cse.unt.edu/~idl99/Proceedings/ahn/img50.gif
http://www.cse.unt.edu/~idl99/Proceedings/ahn/node8.html

That is what you get, when programming immitates math. Even Java and PHP looks beautiful compared to that. Mathematics should be banned as a harmful and obfuscated teaching.

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The symbol _never_ has meaning, the way it is used and related to by other symbols defines its meaning.

Mathematics /is/ about real-world structures, that is what mathematicians do, they define a universe and put the objects into it and declare themselves to have seen some godlike properties despite declaring in advance what'll happen.

There is a simple reason why lambda calculas took so mind-boggling long to develop, and why lisp is still confusing to 90% of programmers:

They can't CONCEIVE of a thought that has no label, no name, no representation other than it's relations. In NO mathematical axiomatic methods, proofs, anything, do you have things like 1. An unbounded space 2. there is NOT, AND, NOR, and they can feed into eachother. 3. There is time.

ALL proofs start with defining names, and only afterwards do they care of relations. It is of no use to anyone if someone can memorize every language in the world if they don't know what any of the words mean, and this is what the discussion has been in the thread, so good job taking one quote of someone out of context and being retarded to the rest of the thread.

Back in my day trolling meant something.