>>26
If you want to advance the state of lisp, look elsewhere.
I had already come to this conclusion myself, thanks.
They're all features that don't fundamentally provide anything that isn't accomplishable by a decent programmer via other means
Hey Mr Blub, languages aren't about capability, they're about idiom and elegance. I find the fact that I cant say
(mapcar #'if '(t nil t) '(1 2 3) '(a b c)) in CL and others to be inelegant.
>>27
second-class macros are only easier to understand given the huge armature of "compile-time(s)". Eval and apply ain't half as complicated as that.