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Name: Anonymous 2011-09-07 13:07

I just discovered there is such a thing as free shell accounts.

So /prog/ which provider should I sign up with?

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-26 19:20

>>21
I work with computers and I don't understand why people pay for these slow impersonal pieces of shit instead of dusting off their P4 box, installing whatever the fuck they want and running it from their places.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-26 19:50

>>38
Take your nothing to hide, nothing to fear rhetoric back to the senate, kike.

Name: wordpress 2012-09-26 20:56

>>38
I know you are joking, but:
http://chronicle.com/article/Why-Privacy-Matters-Even-if/127461/

>>et al.
ssh tunneling and VPN, testing code (jails are my favorite), network stuff (implied with vpn), backup (though unreliable), etc.

Name: 43-kun 2012-09-26 21:03

Forgot daemons. They are the main reason for Shell accounts.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-26 21:29

>>43
I love this article because it never actually tells me why privacy matters even if I have 'nothing to hide'.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-26 22:30

>>1
This provider is cheap, i have a VPS there since 2 years and never had any trouble.

http://www.dmehosting.com/openvz-linux-vps.php

I have the $5.95 vps for running some game servers 24/7.

Name: 46 2012-09-26 22:35

I should add that are servers for very shitty games, nothing modern like COD or BF.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-26 22:39

>>45
If you have 'nothing to hide', post your credit card number (with expiration date and CVV code) on /b/ and see what happens.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-26 23:13

>>45
Because:
- Governments and corporations can (and will) use your seemingly uninteresting personal data in novel and creative ways.  When your right to privacy isn't respected, expect being sued for libel for telling your friend that a certain company is bad, being harassed by targeted advertising companies, or getting blackmailed about something that happened ten years ago.  Privacy is about protecting the weak many against the strong few.
- Lack of privacy distorts the judiciary system far beyond what you would imagine.  Given some facts regarding a person (their purchases in the last few months, their Internet activity, etc.), there is a non-zero probability p that, purely by coincidence, they can be accused (and convicted) of something they didn't (intend to) do.  Normally this doesn't happen that much because the police needs probable cause in order to poke around a person's private life, but if mass surveillance is used, you can directly multiply the probability p by the population to get the number of innocent people that will end up in trouble for nothing.  If this is a bit confusing, I'll re-explain: suppose you have this DNA-matching method that can accurately determine whether a person is the aggressor in a crime 99.9% of the time (and will give the wrong answer 0.1% of the time).  If the prosecution is accusing someone whose presence was proven at the scene of the crime, and they have tons of other evidence, the DNA proof works just fine.  But suppose the police has no leads of investigation, so they run a sample of DNA against a database with 10,000 entries.  The odds that at least one will match, purely by chance, is (1 - 0.99910000) = 99.9954%.  Factor in some circumstantial evidence, tell the jury that the DNA method is 99.9% accurate, and you've successfully put an innocent person in prison.
- If your personal data/work is interesting and/or monetarily valuable in any way, and your right to privacy isn't ensured (either due to mass surveillance or carelessness on your part), you can be sure someone powerful and unethical is there to spy on you and steal your work at the opportune time.  If hiring a hitman for $200,000 can bring a company a profit of $50,000,000, rest assured that the value of human life (i.e. your human life) will not be taken into consideration.
- Similarly, if you are an activist and you protest against something bad that a company or a government is doing, bits and pieces of your private life can be rearranged to discredit you (or worse).  Often, even the right to privacy isn't sufficient in this case, and the stronger rights to anonymity and to cryptography are necessary.
- The right to privacy, when linked to the right to cryptography, forms a barrier beyond which nobody and nothing may intrude, thus ensuring absolute freedom of thought.  It all becomes obvious if you consider the computer's storage device as an extension to its owner's highly limited human brain.
- Publicly forfeiting your right to privacy and discrediting its importance brings us, as a society, yet another step closer to an authoritarian nightmare.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-26 23:16

>>48
Sharing your passwords (security) is not the same as sharing your history (privacy).

Name: >>50 2012-09-26 23:17

Not that I agree with the `nothing to hide, nothing to fear' mentality, I'm just saying your argument is not relevant,

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-26 23:45

>>50
Passwords are information, and therefore privacy. Confusing information with physical possessions is the same misconception that leads to nonsense like equating copyright infringement with theft.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-27 1:32

>>49
And so >>45 was enlightened.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-27 1:50

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-27 14:24

I won't let you check my private doubles without a warrant.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-27 15:56

This message is personal. Why are you reading it? Move your cursor! Have you no respect for my privacy?!

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-27 15:59

>>56
implying I have a cursor
SHIGGYFIGGY

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-27 16:08

>>57
fuck off back to /g/ cumguzzling homoretard

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-27 16:19

>>52
They may be included in the `privacy' category, but they're information that gives you access to physical possessions.

Therefore, the `give me your pass because you have nothing to hide' is not an argument to defend privacy. Use another example, like `let me see your wardrobe' or `let me see your internet history', which are not related to having access to physical possessions (unless you plan to steal your favorite Touhou's hat).

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-27 16:50

66free99

Hell, for that price I could buttfuck a touhou and a lisp machine AT THE SAME TIME.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-27 16:59

deathrow.vistech.net

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-27 17:00

BILL AND TED'S EXCELLENT GENSOKYO ADVENTURE

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-27 21:38

>>59
,,Let me see you naked'' -- after all, one's body is far less private than one's mind.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-28 15:55

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-28 16:52

>>59
Money isn't a physical possession anymore. It's all just bits in some bank's computer or promissory notes for bits in some bank's computer.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-28 17:01

>>65
It is still physical. Try creating your own currency and your servers will be seized by the Jews in no time, because the Jews hate imposters.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-28 17:04

Gold standard
Ron Paul 2012

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-28 17:05

>>63
I like how people use nudity as an over-the-top rebuttal to the nothing-to-hide argument. Of course I have something to hide. My penis is tiny and misshapen. If I had an ordinary penis, then I would have no problem with you looking at it.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-28 17:10

>>68
Sometimes I catch a glimpse of the unassuming fellow in the public toilets pissing out the end of a boa constrictor and think, "why does he have half an erection?"

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-28 17:25

>>69
I know how you feel. I think perhaps sometimes they do it on purpose, just because of people like you and me.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-28 17:30

>>66
Censorship does not magically turn the censored information into a physical possession.

why does he have half an erection?
Probably because      drugs     .

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-28 17:36

>>65
But it can be used to get access to physical possessions. Come on, you already knew this.

>>68
I don't think you would show your ordinary/big penis on public.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-28 17:38

>>71
Money is a different kind of information, which has an ownership. So by seizing your servers I will get ability to emit your currency.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-28 17:40

>>65
Money isn't a physical possession anymore.
Now you're going to tell me your house, furniture and dog live in ``le cloud''.

Back to Hacker Jews, please.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-28 17:58

>>74
your house, furniture and dog live in ``le cloud''.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_life

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-28 19:02

But it can be used to get access to physical possessions. Come on, you already knew this.
That's the whole point. Privacy is important because certain information can be used to get access to physical possessions. Without privacy security is nearly impossible.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-28 19:28

>>76
Speaking of which, what happened to that /prog/ GJS post-signing thing?

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-28 19:37

>>77
A skilled antisocial spammer (i.e. your typical /anus/rider) implemented it and wrote a dubz miner that used it.  I know this because I'm the one who invented GJS.  Probably the only time it was ever used seriously is when a fellow expert poster taught me how to `èxpert quoté´.  Incidentally, I'm also the guy who wrote the really simplistic (but usable in a anonymous message board environment) D-H key exchange script ("dhkx.sh").

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-28 19:43

>>68
I like how people use nudity as an over-the-top rebuttal to the nothing-to-hide argument.
It works on stupid people, i.e. the people who wouldn't understand a word out of four in >>49.  Why do you think there's a Simple English wikipedia?

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-28 19:52

>>79
Please don't be mean. I use the Simple English Wikipedia all the time, and English is my native language.
I think this is more due to the fact that Wikipedia is a reference and encyclopedia than an introduction, though. I'm sick of people saying, "Oh, you want to know what evolution is? Here you go! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution"
I noticed Wikipedia has started adding proper "introduction" articles lately, which I think aren't very encyclopedic. Hopefully there'll be some sort of counterculture movement and then we can all go back to reading proper books again.

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