tell me one thing..

that can c++ bether then c# or c/CLI

>>33
I agree with you completely; I'm just saying that perfect is hard.

>>32
I thought it was a programming language.
In this case, "it" is the people responsible for the language, not the language itself. A programming language cannot be a cult, but a community can.

And no, I can't provide a bundle of source code to back up this (mildly paranoid) feeling, but it was an impression I got in both my informal and formal introductions to Java. I didn't even know about import until we started working with Swing (shudder), to be honest. It's unfortunate that they believe this will make life simpler (consider that every example C program ever seems to start with #include <stdio.h>, or some variant!) because my experience with Java was very much negatively tainted as a result; it makes the language feel a lot more bureaucratic than it needs to. That, and naming classes shit like SQLException.

>semantics
Nope. We're not arguing about semantics at all. Go get a dictionary. You mean 'trivial differences of representation' and semantics is about making distinctions between the concepts being represented. Time to hit up Gottlob Frege.

>>33
As awesome as it is to do the right thing, I've been in the computer business long enough to know that to know that the right thing may take too long to accomplish within a given time period. Worse is better is a matter of expedience and practicality in many cases that I've experienced.