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Oh please, ObjC is no more verbose than C++, even if its dynamic binding mechanism is basically the same as Smalltalk's. If you want a nice static language with an OOP layer with Smalltalk-style dynamic binding, OCaml is really the way to go. But seriously, if you're going to call some brand of OOP "true OOP", please realize that it is Common Lisp's brand (or Dylan's).