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>>21 never said that Lisp, he mentioned the high layer of abstraction and implied it's a mind-opener.
What higher level of abstraction are you talking about? Closures and higher-order functions? VB.NET code monkeys all have had this mind-opening revelations already, come to terms with it and don't consider it something worth boasting of.
Look, I'm not saying that it's not mind-opening, it most definitely is. Like, you know, the realization that each integer can be thought of and operated on in terms of its prime divisors. That is a pretty WHOA realization too, before you thought that all integers are like black boxes, now you see the structure in them, the true nature.
I'm saying that these are pretty basic, simple things. You must learn them, but you can't boast about it. It's like learning to use toilet, which another pretty important stage in personal development!
When I see a person who remains in this excited state about Lisp for months and years and decades, I can only assume that she is retarded, that she was never able to completely understand and internalize these higher-level concept, so they never lost this earth-shattering quality for her. And doubly retarded because she doesn't notice that she positions herself as being dumber than VB.NET code monkeys these days.
A mind-opening revelation is supposed to left the mind in the more open state and pass. If instead the mind is forever locked in some half-open, perpetually being opened, state, it is not normal, it's some kind of phimosis.