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Name: Anonymous 2011-01-07 4:27

"Why?" you surely wonder. Actually, I didn't want to start yet another C++ discussion, mostly because alot of links from cat-v.org would fit perfectly in this context.

But there is this particular site of cat-v.org, that literally screams "HEY! LOOK AT ME! I'M LOUD! I'M ANNOYING! I SAY THINGS! I CRITICIZE EVERY POSSIBLE ASPECT! LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME DAMMIT". That particular site is: http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/c++/

Okay, just a boring link to an interview with Stroustrup (the billionth this time), where stroustrup explains why he 'created' C++ (again, a topic that had been discussed a billion times before).

But it's more about the quotes, not the link. It includes classy ones like this: "If you think C++ is not overly complicated, just what is a protected abstract virtual base pure virtual private destructor and when was the last time you needed one? " ---

The author could as well have said: "I don't understand language $XYZ, so it must be a) extremely bad, b) the work of satan himself c) the work of communists", instead of saying "I don't understand language $XYZ, but maybe it's because.... I never learned it! Or because I never bothered to learn it to begin with" - Not on cat-v.org. No.

Another fairly ``common'' argument against C++ is the lack of a Garbage Collector. My question is, why does a language that never creates garbage, a garbage collector? A GC is used in a language that doesn't run natively (read: compiled to machinecode, and the machine just runs the code literally), since the Virtual Machine has to organize allocated chunks somehow.

But since C++ doesn't run in a Virtual Machine, and therefore doesn't have a layer that is required to keep track of allocated and de-allocated references, the need of a garbage collector is simply void.

Don't get me wrong though, not everything of cat-v.org is bad; My personal favourite is this one: http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/GNU/ - Because it's simply the truth. Fuck GNU.

Oh dear cat-v.org, please continue to exist for the next thousand years, so that we always have something to point and laugh about (but mostly only the authors of cat-v.org themselves, of course).

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-07 7:51

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Name: Anonymous 2011-01-07 7:51

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Name: Anonymous 2011-01-07 7:52

Oh god it's Captain Autism.

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-07 7:52

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Name: Anonymous 2011-01-07 7:53

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Name: Anonymous 2011-01-07 7:53

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Name: Anonymous 2011-01-07 7:53

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Name: Anonymous 2011-01-07 7:54

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Name: Anonymous 2011-01-07 7:54

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Name: Anonymous 2011-01-07 7:55

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Name: Anonymous 2011-01-07 7:55

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Name: Anonymous 2011-01-07 7:56

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Name: Anonymous 2011-01-07 7:57

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Name: Anonymous 2011-01-07 8:05

>>533
Sagefault (Thread bumped)

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-07 8:11

>>534

posix_main.cpp||In function ‘int main()’:|
posix_main.cpp|11|error: ‘Thread’ was not declared in this scope|
posix_main.cpp|11|error: ‘Sagefault’ was not declared in this scope|
||=== Build finished: 2 errors, 0 warnings ===|

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-07 8:33

>>535
#define Sagefault puts
#define Thread "I'm >>535 and "
#define bumped "I suck cocks"

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-07 13:35

I read 4chan because I enjoy watching people who are depressed, suicidal, antisocial and socially abused talk about their life like they are normal and have no problems

there is your tl:dr in a nutshell

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-07 15:05

http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/ruby/

Too bad Ruby on Rails is SLOW AS FUCK

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-07 16:24

>>538
Too slow Rails as Fuck is Bad on Ruby

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-07 18:38

>>539
Too fuck Bad on Rails is SLOW AS RUBY

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-07 19:15

>>6-536

Butthurt LITHP Cocksuckers

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-07 19:18

>>541
Butthurt
"/b/" >>= backTo

Name: Fuck off, !Ep8pui8Vw2 2011-01-07 19:30

>>542
Fuck off, ``faggot''.

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-07 19:46

>>542
Sorry, I meant to write, Butthurt HAKSAL/LITHP worshipping Cocksuckers.

Now hush, back to your Xbox, adults are talking.

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-07 20:26

>>544
Back to /v/ please.

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-07 20:35

>>545
lolol u mad nigga

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-07 21:11

>>546
No, I'm back to /b/ please

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-07 22:46

>>547
fuck off fucking fag, eat shit and die motherfucker

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-07 22:55

>>5
The problem being, that the GC practically eliminates the need for RAII in D almost entirely, as the GC would catch memory chunks anyway
But what about all the other resources? RAII may be a slightly retarded way to manage memory, but leaving a lock (for example) lying around to be collected would be more retarded.

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-07 23:00

RAII may be a slightly retarded
You just disqualified yourself for this discussion, there. Because you think RAII is some magic buzzword, that only applies to C++, Java, or c++-alike languages.

Read http://www.hackcraft.net/raii/.

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-08 2:14

>>550
...try reading the rest of that sentence you quoted.

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-08 3:40

>>551
You mean
... way to manage memory

I did read it. Hence why I suggested you to inform yourself what RAII is really about.

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-08 4:59

>>552
6/10, I >:('d.

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-08 14:18

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-08 14:18

Triplez. Check 'em.

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-08 14:32

Dual timer GET

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-08 14:33

>>555
OMGZLOL UR A WIZARD???!???!?!?1'!?!?!?'1?!?'?!?!?!'1'!??!£=)!"=)=!?!?"?!??"?="!=="?

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-08 14:59

>>1
why does a language that never creates garbage
never creates garbage
C++


That's why C++ applications don't suffer of memory leaks when C ones do.

Other than that, >>1 never heard of BoehmGC

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-08 15:10

>>558
Bitches don't know about my GC

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-08 15:15

>>558

C has no leaks at all, that is why micorosoft had to introduce a all those _s functions like scanf_s

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