So when will the day come,

When programmers aren't needed anymore and we just tell robots to do the programming? If I were you guys I'd be scared for your jobs. If you don't have a job, then these robots would make your existence pointless anyway.

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Because Penrose/Hameroff and I share similar 'unpopular' views does not mean we are incorrect, I only have to cite heliocentrism to prove that.

As for breaking down conciousness into two problems I feel you are avoiding the point, how can you be so brazen as to de-construct something into two domains when we have no understanding of the actual domain? Fair enough we have observational data but that leads to us simulating human behaviour(s). If that's what you want, fine, I don't disagree with that.

I held the same opinion as you 10 years ago, after reading shadows of the mind I couldn't get the issue of paramecium out of my head. Also I would suggest you hold off throwing around claims of "human-level intelligence AIs within 50" this makes you sound like a TV scientist. I feel Orch-OR is a step in the right direction, there is something there that we don't understand, research into this area is a good thing.