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real programming language?

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-13 17:28

i was here trying to talk about java with some java bros and was told to learn a "real" programming language. so i decided to learn c#.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-13 17:35

/pr/ <--- go there

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-13 17:39

>>2
dere is no such bored.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-13 17:50

Lolwut?

First off Java is a real programming language (and your bros aren't real programmers it seems).

Secondly c#?

That worst than Java and besides is Microsoft propriety shit.

You'd better invest your time learning C AND C++ instead.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-13 17:51

>>4
you misunderstand. i was trying to make bros on /prog/. it was YOU, /prog/, that told me to learn a "real" language.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-13 17:52

>>4
op here, and also, in case you werent aware, i was trolling. considering c# and java are basically the same language.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-13 17:53

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-13 18:21

>>4
Who cares about that? Judge a language by its features, not patent bullshit. Just in case you didn't know Java is just as "proprietary" (ORACLE just sued GOOGLE).

>>1
Java and C# are ``real languages'', but most general purpose languages are ``real languages''. Learn C, then read SICP, then learn a Lisp and maybe some ML if you want to truly learn something (Prolog and Forth might also be fun to learn).

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-13 18:23

>>1-6
SPAWHBTC

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-13 19:01

(Prolog and Forth might also be fun to learn)
Trust me, not worth it

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-13 19:33

>Lisp

How is Lisp considered a real language?

Who the fuck uses Lisp for anything but configuring Emacs and some other GNU programs?

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-13 19:38

>>11
Lain

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-13 19:42

>>11
0/10
Back to /pr/

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-13 20:02

>>13
All topics actually related to programming languages have been discussed in the past. Even all the good trolls related to them have been had. All that's left in our dear /prog/ is some shitty trolls pretending they're from the imageboards and answering their own posts with "back to *, please". Oh, and once in a while, the copy-pastes from Reddit, of course.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-13 20:08

>>14
Just the usual reponse to a common type of troll. Also, IHBMT and inb4 the ``faggot'' guy.
All topics actually related to programming languages have been discussed in the past.
Sadly probably true ;_;

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-13 20:18

>>12,13

I'm as serious as fuck. Sure Lisp may be the 2nd oldest langauge but it's surely neither one of the most efficient (unlike FORTRAN), nor the most popular. Why do you use it for?

I'm not trolling.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-13 20:19

>>15
The ````faggot'' guy'' is probably the same guy who is posting the "back to *" shit; okay maybe not, but it really REALLY wouldn't surprise me at all.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-13 20:40

>>8
i dont want to learn C though :(

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-13 20:47

>>16
I use it to write complex applications while still maintaining reasonable performance. A recent program I've written was only some 2000 lines long and performed a variety of rather complex tasks, a lot of which were desribed in a compact DSL which was compiled into real code, which was much larger than the description code. If I were to have used something like Java or C# to do the same task, I estimate 10k times if I'm lucky, and if I would have used C, I might have squeezed it in 10-20k lines, however the flexibility would have had to suffer (C tends to force me to make premature optimizations all the time, and if I force myself not to make those optimizations, my code ends up being a lot more complicated and I have to track a lot more things myself), and chances are the C and Java implementations would have been interpreted instead of compiled, so they would have been slower. (my CL tool processes about a hundred megabytes of source code within a few seconds. I've had speedups of 1000%+ by mostly performing algorithmic changes, instead of microptimizations. Compiler-related microoptimizations were also performed, however, with a good compiler they usually don't yeild much more than some 20-30% speedup).

so the tl;dr here is that I'm very happy with the language that I'm using and the power it gives me. I can code a lot and still afford to be lazy as fuck.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-13 20:48

racket

Name: >>19 2010-08-13 20:53

Of course, when I said 2000 lines, I only meant my program. The program itself depends on about 6 libraries (sometimes more or less depending on implementation used, I had reader conditionals used as some implementations provide faster internal support for some features, so I prefer those when available, and use portable libs for everything else, thus achieving de facto portability within the ~8-10 major CL implementations).

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-13 22:45

COMPACT DICK SUCKING LIPS

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-14 13:47

>>18

Than you will never be a decent programmer monkey boy.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-14 13:50

>>19

Dude just admit you are a better Lisp programmer than a C programmer.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-14 13:57

my anus belongs to sepples

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-15 0:09

>>24
Maybe, but I've written plenty of C. I can do most things I can do in Lisp in C, but it takes me a lot more LoC to achieve them, usually by an order of magnitude. This isn't really a problem as C and Lisp have very different purposes, and I use them interchangably depending on what kind of program I want to code.

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