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Name: Anonymous 2010-02-19 1:59

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-19 3:04

>>1
motivational poster
Back to /b/, please.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-19 3:14

>>2
Whom are you quoting?

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-19 3:24

>>3
the jews

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-19 3:28

Recursive Illuminati of the Knights of the Lambda Calculus

was an actual 'fictional' club at MIT in the 90's. Apparently buttons were given out to those who asked for them.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-19 3:30

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-19 3:38

edit] In popular culture

A group that evolved from or is similar to them, called The Knights of Eastern Calculus make a major appearance in the anime series Serial Experiments Lain. References to MIT professors and other American computer scientists are prominent in Episode 11 of the series. At one point in the anime, Lain is seen with code displayed on her handheld device that appears to be LISP.[citation needed]

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-19 3:55

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-19 4:10

>>8
Seems to be part of this code walker:
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/project/ai-repository/ai/lang/lisp/code/codewalk/walk/new_walk.cl
Code walkers are pretty useful things to use/write.

Name: >>9 2010-02-19 4:15

Which is part of PCL (one of the main and most efficient CLOS implementations). You tend to find modified PCL's in modern implementations of CLOS part of SBCL and other CL implementations, albeit they're quite changed compared to the original PCL codebase. That said, PCL is pretty old, even though still in active use: recent versions are from '92, but I guess modified versions part of modern CL implementations are much more newer, though not portable anymore.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-19 4:16

And by PCL, I mean PortableCommonLoops.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-19 10:54

>>2
being trolled on /prog/
Stay right where you are.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-19 12:21

>>11
Does it do MOP?

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-19 12:31

>>13
Of course, if Closette is the simplified reference implementation for MOP, PCL is the implementation of full CLOS+MOP. Both were made by Kiczales and friends. It's also probably the closest to the real MOP (See: Closer to MOP for SBCL barely has no fixes, while other implementations do).

Name: >>14 2010-02-19 12:33

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-19 13:51

Holy shit, proper introspection for the cee-los. I've been wanting to stay on CCL as long as I can but I'm thinking of switching to SBCL for the out-of-the-box asdf-install.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-19 13:55

Can any of the CLers recommend a tutorial/book for a Schemer who wants to know more about CLOS?

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-19 14:03

>>16
CCL has its advantages too, especially on some platforms like Win32(compared to SBCL, whose support is stable, but not nearly as featureful as on *nix). That said, SBCL probably does MOP most correctly as its CLOS is a variant of PCL, and Closer-to-MOP ( http://common-lisp.net/project/closer/ ) confirms this behaviour. CCL's support isn't that shabby either: http://common-lisp.net/project/closer/repos/closer-mop/closer-mcl.lisp http://common-lisp.net/project/closer/repos/closer-mop/features.txt
>>17
How about TinyCLOS?  Kiczales did that one too (functional CLOS port to Scheme, less fancy macros than in CL, but in some places the author considers the MOP slightly better than in CL with regards to optimization possibilities), albeit his programming style may be more CLish than you'd prefer, YMMV.

http://community.schemewiki.org/?Tiny-CLOS

Name: >>18 2010-02-19 14:09

>>17
Unless I misunderstood your question, and you just want to learn CLOS in CL, then there's a few good books/tutorials:
Practical Common Lisp has some good chapters on general-purpose CLOS usage, and practical examples.
Keene 's Object-Oriented Programming in Common Lisp is another book which is mostly composed of practical examples of CLOS usage.
The Hyperspec talks about the more advanced features such custom method combinations which I haven't found discussed, however here's a simple tutorial: http://www.cawtech.demon.co.uk/clos/define-method-combination.html

As for the MOP and actually understanding CLOS inside out, there is no other book than the AMOP. I've found reading AMOP to be quite a nice read, the author shows implementing CLOS within CLOS and then he shows how to bootstrap the system. It also shows how the meta-object protocol is derived naturally while implementing it. The sample code is quite easy to read and understand if you follow the book.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-19 14:29

>>18,19
thanks, I was looking into learning CLOS in CL mostly because it is standardized. I didn't want get confused when I see how each of the different schemes branched from the evolutionary path with tiny-clos, as they are wont to do.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-20 21:37

The Knights of Eastern Calculus are not amused.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-20 23:17

>>21
Knights of the ﻝ Calculus

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-21 0:00

>>21
PRESENT DAY

   PRESENT TIME

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-21 3:01

>>23

aHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-krsh

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-21 4:31

>>22
Knights of the (_o_) <-- Anus!

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-21 7:11

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Name: Anonymous 2010-02-21 10:29

The Knights of Rectal Calculus are not abused.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-21 10:32

>>27
Yes, but the Royal Order of the Rectal Algebra is.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-21 11:05

>>28
StrictAnal quality!

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-21 12:23

>>29
Seriously what did the programmer who named this thought.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-21 13:00

>>30
Either a) English isn't their first language, or b) they are mature enough to say `Anus` without giggling like a schoolgirl.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-21 16:28

>>31
There should be a MatureStrictAnal too :D

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-21 16:30

>>32
U MENA UnsafeStrictAnal

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-17 1:21

Are you GAY?
Are you a NIGGER?
Are you a GAY NIGGER?

If you answered "Yes" to all of the above questions, then GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) might be exactly what you've been looking for!

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-08 18:29

>>8-11,13-20
More of this.

Cultural bump

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-09 2:45

>>31
There should be a LooseAnal too :D

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