Linux vs. BSD

Honest question (I know it's 4chan and /prog/ and all, but still, I figured I would try):  Why BSD and not Linux?  And no, I'd rather not ask the Windows zealots over at /g/.

I've just happened to notice some hate for Linux (or ``GNU/Linux'' if your name is rms) around here, so I assume some flavor of BSD is what a number of said individuals are running.  But why?  Why is Linux so bad?  And I'd like to honestly know why, not just something like ``LOL VIRAL GPL IS VIRAL,'' but from a technical standpoint, is it that bad of a system compared to *BSD?  I admit I'm no ENTERPRISE developer, but I've always been able to find programs and tools to suit whatever I want to do on my Linux system, and it seems solid enough.

yawn

tl;dw bsd is for carefully constructing a system from discrete components to fill a particular need while linux is for off-the-shelf spaghetti heaps that blah etc

i use it primarily because most of the linux users i've come across are complete twats.
the bsd userbase is generally more mature and more intelligent.
also, bsd's development model is much more organised than linux's.

>>4
Isn't that because the BSD userbase mainly consists of people who made a very bad choice in the early 90s and have had time to learn the system since then?

Also, Theo de Raadt lol

I personally have no beef against GNU/Linux. My system is an OpenBSD system with the Gobolinux directory system. Why BSD? It's something different.

>>5
Linux and BSD are very similar in usage.

I don't use BSD much, but it's a nice Unix variant, and it also has a superior license to Linux, not it matters that much.

I used FreeBSD for about 6 months and found that a lot of things didn't quite work as they should.

Does BSD even have a flash player? LOL!

>>10
yes, it does.
but why on earth would you want that?
the only thing that flash does is show shitty amateur cartoons and games

>>11
and furry porn animations

I too have been looking into this question for a while. Coming from Gentoo (In before CFLAGS), FreeBSD seems to come pretty close in handling.

From what I understand, BSD considers their kernel more fit for server deployment due to more "out-of-the-box" security features, a better TCP stack and generally a more stable software. Can't testify to those from my own experience, but it's what I've read on the Internets.

Apart from that, hardware support seems to be more diverse for Linux, and most software is developed for Linux primarily and only ported to BSD after it gained some traction. (Or never).

Would love to give FreeBSD a spin on a vserver, but haven't been able to find a decent provider offering the choice yet.

>>11
redtube, youporn, etc

>>10
You can just use downloadhelper to downnload the video and thenwatch it on MPCHC

>>15
MPC-HC
BSD

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>>16
Ok whatever the equivalent is on BSD

>>17
implying that bsd has an equivalent
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>>18
I hear mplayer runs just fine on BSD... and, it's quite superior to MPC in a number of ways.

>>14
lol.
you don't need porn when you use BSD.
BSD users get all the girls.

>>20
girls are overrated.

>>21
3D girls are overrated.

fixed
nothing beats a nice 2D waifu

>>21
What are they rated?

>>19
Really? Tell that to my vsfilter, ffdshow and random dshow filters that I can use, oh and I didn't even mention avisynth, oops. Example: Enjoy WINE hacks which try to make CoreAVC work on Linux.

>>24
I had to google those terms, but I'm not into post-production so what's the big deal?

>>22
There was thread about lucide dreaming and 2D waifus a day ago on /a/. Its way better than 3D reality it seems.

>>26
What about its way better?

>>24
Let's see...
- mplayer has libass, which is faster than vsfilter
- mplayer is built on ffdshow, so you can use every single filter you could use on Windows as well
- CoreAVC is actually one single patch applied to mplayer and works just fine

You obviously don't know anything about mplayer, so better stop posting, or even better, go back to /g/.

This may surprise you but I actually I did a couple of patches for mplayer that were included. This was about 8 years ago lol

>>28
- mplayer has libass, which is faster than vsfilter
It's also a lot less compatible than vsfilter. It's actually sad that vsfilter's source is ASS' definition, but that doesn't change the fact that it's how ASS is supposed to look, and that's how those making those subs are expecting it to look (with all the bugs included).
- mplayer is built on ffdshow, so you can use every single filter you could use on Windows as well
Wrong, mplayer is build on ffmpeg. ffdshow is a dshow port of ffmpeg. ffms is a avisynth port of ffmpeg source filters. ffdshow is just one of many dshow filters available. Even ignoring the large variety of dshow filters (common ones people want to use are CoreAVC as it provides H264 decoding acceleration, but ffdshow-mt is fast enough for my box, so I don't use it). Even ignoring the dshow filters and all other native tools which are available, avisynth is win32 only as well. I'm actually reminded of a certain someone which refused to run Windows for encoding tasks and tried to do as much as possible via mencoder or WINE, but after about one year of experimenting, he ended up running everything through WINE, and the whole process was more trouble than it was worth, so he just uses a VM with Windows for such tasks now. I wish there was a good avisynth port for linux and there would be many plugins supported(there are many which are binaries only as it is, which is a problem even if such an avisynth port appeared), but we all know the avisynth 3.0 port is vaporware/dead.
- CoreAVC is actually one single patch applied to mplayer and works just fine
A single patch?
http://code.google.com/p/coreavc-for-linux/ doesn't seem that small to me. And that's just a single dshow filter. There are many many more.

You obviously don't know anything about mplayer, so better stop posting, or even better, go back to /g/.
I've used mplayer and mencoder, but I've also used many other tools, a lot of which are Win32-only. If you're serious about encoding on Linux, you're either going to 1)port a lot of stuff yourself OR more realistically 2) run everything through WINE or 3) just use a Windows VM.

I appreciate ffmpeg's contributions to the domain, but to claim that they're superior to everything else out there just shows that you don't really know what other options are available.

>>30
>>28
You're both idiots. This is about watching porn videos. Go comb your neckbeards, they're getting tangled.

>>30
or you could just pay a couple bucks more for a Mac and not have to fuck around with all that bullshit.

>>32
couple of thousand bucks

ftfy

>>32
Most software on mac is not free. Expect to pay alot more to use your OS productively.

>>34
Most software I need comes with the OS. For the other stuff, ever heard of GNU, or warez?

>>33
Get out of the 90's already.

>>36
Exactly. It's now about 5000 bucks.

>>34
Most software on Windows is not free. None is required to be productive.

>>34
All the software that is free on Linux and BSD is also free on Mac.

>>39
http://archives.warpradio.com/btr/ComputerAmerica/061623.mp3