/prog/ - Adobe is lazy

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-07 8:05

Proof that Adobe programmers are lazy as fuck.

http://flashcrash.dempsky.org/

Name: sage 2010-02-07 8:40

Go back to /digg/ or /reddit/,please.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-07 8:43

>>2
Also I fucking hate when people say, "Go back to /digg/ or /reddit/,please." so kindly shut up.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-07 9:07

>>3
Hey! Listen here, jerkface! If you don't like it, maybe you could get out of the Internet!

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-07 10:23

Shut up!
No, you shut up!
No, you shut up!
No, you shut up!
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-07 10:27

>>5
welcome to /b/, enjoy your stay

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-07 13:14

That doesn't surprise me at all. I know how to crash that piece of shit using YouTube's player; a certain combination of clicks involving switching video qualities will crash it 90% of the time effortlessly.

Also, don't tell anybody I told you, but a certain acquaintance which happens to work at Adobe once told that about 15% of the source code were #ifdefs.

With that I don't mean 15% of the code was under conditional compilation, I mean 15% of the lines of code are conditional preprocessor directives.

TRUE ENTERPRISE QUALITY

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-07 13:30

ADOBE HACKED MY ANUS

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-07 17:18

>>3
I fucking hate when people say, "Also I fucking hate when people say, 'Go back to /digg/ or /reddit/,please.' so kindly shut up." so kindly shut up.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-07 17:21

#define RUN_SLOW_ON_LINUX 1

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-07 18:00

I don't think they're lazy. Just incompetent. I mean, if you, purely hypothetically, were a competent programmer, and someone told you "we're thinking of putting you on the Flash team," wouldn't you get the hell out of there?

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-07 19:51

#ifdef LINUX

    usleep(50)

#endif

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-07 20:03

>>10,12
If you think the Linux version is slow you obviously haven't seen the Mac one.

THE DIFFICULTY OF BLITTING A BITMAP TO THE SCREEN

Also the API involves calling the plugin 1000 times per second or so. Firefox reduced CPU usage 30fold for background tabs by increasing the delay to 33ms in that case.

Whenever somebody complains about high CPU usage in plugins they just increase the delay in the loop. The plugin authors respond by moving everything to another thread.

Chrome attempted to run it at low priority but that didn't work very well because plugins use native widgets onto the main browser window, so if they starve for CPU the whole browser freezes.

EXPERT SOFTWARE INTERFACES

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-08 0:09

>>13
Adobe gave up and is now using CoreAnimation.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-08 1:01

>>14
Please elaborate. I know they are doing something big for the next version, but not exactly what.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-08 1:07

http://flashcrash.dempsky.org/ crashed my brother!
Damn you, >>1, I hope you get banned.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-08 1:19

Crashes are nothing. Most client-side vulns being abused in the wild right now are due to Adobe.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-08 1:44

>>16
If a plugin crash brings down your browser, then your browser is an enormous piece of shit, and you are an irresponsible Internet citizen for allowing non-sandboxed plugins to run without explicit authorization.

tl;dr: your not just the crashes but the spam too fagget

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-08 3:23

>>18
But Flash can crash anything! Some years ago, visiting flash using sites could even lock up my graphics driver with some regularity. It's so amazingly badly written, you can use it as a fuzzer.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-08 3:36

Flash is written in SEPPLES after all.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-08 3:41

>>18
spam and faggots, sounds like a good breakfast to me!

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-08 3:41

Why did we want flash again?
Was it because we wanted stupid flash games we could play between 4 and 5 PM because the boss wasn't watching at that time?
Or was it just a marketing thing for Adobe?

I don't remember, but all I know this: Interactive webpages suck ass.
Bring me back the pure HTML web, I don't want no fucking jewtube or Farmville.

I'm going into shock, give me an hour or so.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-08 3:46

>>20
So is your precious Firefox, you talentless hack
And every other browser as well, including Chrome

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-08 6:10

>>1
Fuck you faggot, I had a lot of porn open in my browser and now all the pages have to reload again!

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-08 6:14

>>23
I'm not saying I have anything against browsers being full of vulnerabilities. It's easy enough to isolate them from the rest of the world.

Name: >>23 2010-02-08 6:50

Oh, and I never said I was using FireFox, but I'm pretty sure my browser is written in SEPPLES too.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-08 7:31

>>24
Blame yourself for installing Flash and Adobe for their shoddy software.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-08 8:15

>>24
Oh sorry to keep you from your'e hentai.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-08 8:38

>>28
I fucking hate when people say, "your'e hentai" so kindly shut up.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-08 8:44

>>29
I fucking hate when people say "I fucking hate when people say, "your'e hentai" so kindly shut up" so kindly shut up.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-08 9:42

Error line 30 quote-within-quote failure

Did you mean

I fucking hate whe npeople say 'I fucking hate when people say, "Your'e hentai" so kindly shut up.'

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-08 10:25

But I am a hentai!

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-08 10:54

>>30
I fucking hate when people say “I fucking hate when people say "I fucking hate when people say, "your'e hentai" so kindly shut up" so kindly shut up.” so kindly shut up.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-08 14:48

>>33
Listen here, jerkface.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-08 16:15

>>34
Listen here, jerkface, I hate it when people say "listen here, jerkface" so...

Fuck I hate me for making this post.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-08 16:37

This came in super-handy to test the multi-process plugin support in Firefox trunk:

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/4673/adobeshit.png

I don't like they they pop up a window though (at least it's not modal). IMO they should optimize for the case the plugin is crashing continuously and just display an info bar like the Glorious Chrome browser.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-08 17:04

>>36
Does not work with 64bit builds yet.

Also, why is Flash's video quality so shitty? The chroma upsampling looks disgusting.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-08 17:12

>>37
If the chroma upsampling is your biggest bother with Flash video, you're a very lucky person.

Considering it wastes precious CPU cycles I'd consider it a reasonable tardeoff. I'm not an expert on the matter but interpolating it would cost an additional sum and shift per every destination pixel.

That said I have never noticed it. Not that I looked very closely, but still, I noticed it easily on the Sony PSP, and that was without zooming the video to 16 times its size.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-09 1:55

I give this thread starts

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-09 2:28

Semi-related:

http://blitzableiter.recurity.com/

This is a fairly interesting project. It essentially decompiles, validates and reassembles flash files to prevent exploits like this.

I recommend reading the talk slides as the rest of the site isn't really verbose about it. (Also might want to see http://events.ccc.de/congress/2009/Fahrplan/events/3494.en.html )

Adobe is lazy

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