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stealing GPL code

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-05 14:03

If you use some GPL code and then don't share your code, is there anyway they can find out?? This is about a turn-based strategy game btw if that matters.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-05 14:05

is there anyway they can find out
Given the large amount of code that has been open-sourced as a result of trying to steal GPL'ed code and getting found out (like the Microsoft Hypervisor stuff), I think it's obvious that there is.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-05 14:07

>>2
actually steal isn't really the best term, it's copyright infringement

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-05 14:30

>>3
actually copyright infringement isn't really the best term, it's piracy.

Name: Neil Gaiman 2009-09-05 14:37

>>4
Pirates were raping wenches and drinking rum.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-05 14:40

>>1
Does it happen to be Wesnoth?

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-05 14:54

>>6
It better not be, or esr will be after him with his guns

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-05 15:15

>>5
What did they do to they're wrenches?

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-05 15:45

>>8
They were haxing their anii with their wrenches. Duh.

Name: Haxus the [truncated] 2009-09-05 16:51

Haxus the Wench Raper (via anii) and Rum Drinker

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-05 18:06

>>1
Yes. Nobody ever chooses willingly to apply the GPL to their project: they are only forced to do so because they depend on another GPL'd project. Maybe someday we will break free from this vicious circle, but in the meantime, don't be the next victim.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-05 18:09

>>11
Hi Steve Ballmer Please don't throw a chair at me

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-05 18:17

How can anyone know you stole code if they can't see it?!

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-05 18:19

>>13
Reverse-engineer it and see if it's the same as if you compiled the GPL'd version.

And in other cases, just see if your program uses similar algorithms or something.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-05 21:59

>>11
I choose to willingly apply GPL to all my projects.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-05 23:15

>>7
esr can't do shit with his gnus.

>>15
that's because you don't actually write any code. you just take code that other people released as free software and make it anti-free.

Name: 15 2009-09-05 23:35

>>16
I don't understand what you mean. You can choose to believe whether or not I actually have written and published software. All I can do is assert that I publish all my software under the GPL.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-06 2:55

As the infamous MrVacBob discovered, Ico violated the GPL1. If I ever become rich, I think I will sue them for all the Ico source code.

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Name: Anonymous 2009-09-06 3:16

>>1
you'll need to statically link any gpl stuff you use, otherwise it'll be pathetically obvious.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-06 3:57

It's trivial to detect GPL'ed code in other people's programs with very little effort. Anyone with basic reverse engineering skills can do it.

Name: =+=*=F=R=O=Z=E=N==V=O=I=D=*=+= !frozEn/KIg 2009-09-06 13:05

>>20 By very little effort you mean sifting through 30+ megabyte disassembles hoping they are not packed or encrypted?



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Name: Anonymous 2009-09-06 13:09

>>21
It's doable in minutes. Real reverse engineers know their tools. One hint: F.L.I.R.T..
As for packing/encryption, you have to remove any before starting reverse engineering your code, but anybody worth a dime knows that. Inb4 back to /rechan/.

Name: =+=*=F=R=O=Z=E=N==V=O=I=D=*=+= !frozEn/KIg 2009-09-06 13:16

>>22 Dependency Walker > Flirt



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Name: Anonymous 2009-09-06 13:19

You don't even know what you're talking about. Dynamic linking is one thing and easy to understand without needed ANY tools, any PE editor will tell you what it imports, or you could just look at it in a hex editor and find the same. Static linking causes the code to be inlined, and to identify it, you'll need to detect code pattern, which is non-trivial, but doable, that's what FLIRT does.

IHBT

Name: sage 2009-09-06 15:52

>>24
Stop responding to teenage posters

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-20 18:44

STEAL MY ANUS

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-20 18:57

http://gpl-violations.org/

Proprietary licenses are dirty and evil. Why not make your code GPL?

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-22 12:23

>>27
Did you have to bump a thread with frozenvirgin in it?

Name: Anonymous 2012-06-28 8:28

>>30 yes, and I'm doing it again right now

Name: One Happy Nigga 2012-06-28 8:45

It's OK to steal, kill, rape whatever as long as you don't get caught. There is no absolute morality, you basically make your own values.

Name: Anonymous 2012-06-28 9:09

>>31
Upvoted for realism

Name: Anonymous 2012-06-28 9:21

You only have to share the source code if you distribute the program, but I don't see how they'd find out in the first place.

I don't agree with you dong it but I don't really care either.

>>31
There are things which are "right" and "wrong" but only because of the consequences they produce. There is a universal right and wrong to the same extent that there is a universal up and down (that is, not at all).

Name: Anonymous 2012-06-28 9:22

>>33
s/dong/doing/

Name: Anonymous 2012-06-28 9:31

Don't use GPL licensed software, use BSD licensed software. Stallman is a silly old man.

Name: Anonymous 2012-06-28 10:35

>>35
Stallman is a silly old man.
But he makes a ton of money in GPL violation lawsuits. Many Jews look stupid, like Ballmer with his famous "Developers", but then again they are indecently rich. That is: what looks stupid for you, makes them billions.

Name: Anonymous 2012-06-28 10:39

>>35
Someone calling Stallman silly looks like an assembly programmer calling C# programmer silly, or like a unicellular organism calling mammals silly, for using so much energy in so inefficient way.

Name: Anonymous 2012-06-28 10:56

They're onto you already, OP, no SICP for you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Software_Foundation#Structure

FSF Board of Directors
Hal Abelson, LISP
Geoffery Knauth, LISP
Henry Poole, moot's relative?
Richard Stallman, LISP
Gerald Jay Sussman, LISP, third lurker of /prog/
Benjamin Mako Hill, dunno
Bradley Kuhn, dunno

Name: Anonymous 2012-06-28 11:08

>>14
He can obfuscate it and there is such a thing as trusted computing, which will disallow any reversing.

Name: Anonymous 2012-06-28 11:10

>>17
There is big difference between school project and a useful software. And no, savegame editor for Diablo 3 isnt useful software.

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