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What would you change in C?

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-26 13:44

It's the time for the next revision of the C standard and for some reason they want your advice. What do you add, remove, rename, etc ?

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-29 14:33

I'm not sitting down and drawing some fucking complicated diagrams every time I write code

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-29 15:14

All I want is to be able to evaluate C expressions at the command prompt. Is there a way I can do this on my Macintosh™?

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-29 15:29

>>82
Unfortunately, no, since a Macintosh isn't a real computer

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-29 15:30

>>83
Oh ;_;

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-29 15:32

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=c+repl

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-29 16:48

The order of evaluation should be defined.

Name: Zhivago 2009-08-29 17:00

>>86
Order of evaluation has nothing to do with this.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-29 17:04

case statements shouldn't require constants. const should create compile time constants. a real type system, so things like int string = "string"; or
sin("string"); are not possible. No goto statement.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-29 17:20

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Name: Anonymous 2009-08-29 17:34

>>88
As soon as you want a real type system, you're outside the realm of what C is actually for. (Although, you're still inside the realm of what C gets abused for.)

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-29 17:48

>>87
Nothing to do with what?

What would you change in C?

Name: Haxus the Beetrolled 2009-08-29 18:04

>>88
5/10.  IHBT ;(

No goto statement.
Having goto in C isn't harming anybody.  If newbie/retarded programmers accidentally use it then so be it; inexperienced people will make mistakes like that no matter what you take out of the language.  I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about.
case statements shouldn't require constants.
This I might actually agree with.  Someone correct me if I'm wrong to think so.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-29 21:10

>>88
"A real type system?" I'd rather not put up with your OOP shit. C's types work fine, thank you.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-30 2:42

the only thing i would change in c would be to get rid of the unnecessary distinction between function types and object types.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-30 2:49

b u t t s o r t

Name: =+=*=F=R=O=Z=E=N==V=O=I=D=*=+= !fRoZeNHN4I 2009-08-30 3:02

>>95
here you go


#include "void.h" //handles all the common functions,#defines,#ifdefs and #includes
//including buttsort() and related algorithms

vd main(stdargs){(argc>1)?buttsort(argv[1]);:exit(1);}

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Name: Anonymous 2009-08-30 3:09

>>96
Not bad, something useful out of Void!

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-30 3:57

>>40
D is shit

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-01 9:16

>>40
No

>>1
Add Alef

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-01 9:22

>>99
wtf is Alef?

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-01 9:28

>>100
A Jew.

Name: t 2009-09-01 10:05

>>100
These kids today, I don't know...

Alef is/was a language developed at Bell Labs. It's basically C but with more coolish stuff and some cleaning up. It's also a Jewish letter equivalent to A or Alpha.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-01 10:10

>>102
なるほど

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-01 10:42

>>103
I'm sorry, but I don't read wapanese. I can only assume that you verify my awesomeness

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-01 13:09

>>104

i dont read runes neither

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-01 15:22

>>96
Fuck you.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-01 17:13

>>102
Nobody cares about Jews.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-28 12:14

Pachelbel's Canon in Db widdershins.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-28 17:59

>>103
>なるほど
>Naruhodo
>I see.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-28 21:32

>>34
Back  to  /b/,  please!

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-28 22:02

>>108
Pachelbel's Canon in Db widescreen.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-28 22:49

1. allow function types everywhere that incomplete types are allowed.
2. make something like gcc's const function attribute standard.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-28 23:38

Sounds like what y'all really want is Go.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-29 0:24

>>113
Certainly not all of us. Though, for those who did want Go, they are probably happy with Go by now.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-29 2:40

>>114
Well you know what they say. When you gotta go, HAX MY ANUS.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-29 2:45

>>113
Nobody who wanted Go wants Go. It got lost in the translation.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-29 5:42

>>116
I'd love to hear what your concerns with it are.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-29 6:59

>>117
It's made by HAX MY ANUS.

Name: >>116 2010-04-29 7:34

>>117
In a nutshell:
1. You have to game the runtime in order to make sure scheduling is done effectively.
2. I have a collection of dynamically allocated channels I need to poll. The official solution is to spawn a number of goroutines to select on them in static groups because the existing select is O(1) and it would be a shame not to use that, or alter its behavior to cover new areas.
3. It's a concurrent language without a whit of tail call elimination.
4. The near elimination of semicolons is a compromise between the stupid and the unnecessary. It's a flippant decision.

I could go on, but honestly I'd probably STFU if just the above was fixed. #1-3 are dealbreakers, #4 is just supremely annoying.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-29 11:40

>>92
I thought that's how switch statements are optimized by the compiler. I could be wrong here.

>>1
Scoped pre-processor definitions.
#{
# define hello (int)1
int test(){
    return hello;
}
#}

int test2(){
    return hello; // causes a compiler error, hello is undefined at the end of the scope
}
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