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John Carmack

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-13 17:38

What does /prog/ think about John Carmack and graphics programming in general?

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-13 17:46

John Carmack is pretty cool and a good graphics programmer. Graphics programming is also cool. However id software did baaaad things to the world of gaming when it started pushing lame games driven by graphics alone. One could see this trend already in Wolfenstein and Quake, and especially in Doom. Then it was downhill from there. If only Carmack had been lead graphics programmer for Looking Glass or something, instead of having his own company.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-13 18:20

>>2
One could see this trend already in Wolfenstein and Quake, and especially in Doom.
no, it started with doom 3.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-13 18:44

XBox-quality graphics have been sufficient for me. I wish game companies spent more time making fun games. I'm not sure how to blame JC for the fault of the entire industry, but if you want me to, OP, I guess I will.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-13 18:55

Who cares about 3d games, they are crap.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-13 19:02

Graphic advancements aren't all bad, one good thing is larger and more open worlds without the Half-Life approach of having load-zones in every 10th corridor.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-13 19:16

who gives a shit games died after the first version of nethack

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-13 19:23

>>3
Lolwat.

>>4
I blame him for leading the “forget about gameplay” trend. As an industry leader, id's lack of emphasis on gameplay suggests it's only for people who can't do graphics. Which is backwards.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-13 20:13

The third dimension can kiss my ass.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-13 21:56

Quake 3 is still better than any other FPS released. EVER

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-13 22:03

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-13 22:33

>>8
He is in the BUSINESS of making GRAPHICS ENGINES to SELL. WAYSA?

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-13 23:05

>>8
Admittedly, I haven't played any of id's games between Quake 3 Arena and DOOM 3, and nothing else since, but I think they only started to focus on graphics with DOOM 3 (or some time between the two). You just need to compare the two's gameplay to realize it. Q3A is basically a multi-player game with single player tacked on when you're alone. It's very fast-paced and perfect to play with friends. DOOM 3, on the other hand, is a graphics benchmark. Carmarck wrote the engine just to say "look what I can do!" The same can be said about anything by Crytek.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-13 23:49

>>13
Crysis actually had gameplay, though.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-13 23:56

Halo 3 was better than anything crytek or id ever made.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-14 0:08

>>14
Too bad that it was shit. But I'll give you that it was better than DOOM 3.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-14 4:00

Boy, sure is /v/ in here.

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-07-14 4:04

>>17 If that was /v/ consolefags would be dominating the thread.



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Name: Anonymous 2009-07-14 4:12

We can hope Doom 4 and Rage will be good. They won't be :(

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-14 5:10

Now he makes rockets.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-14 7:47

%SHUTDOWN-I-OPERATOR, this terminal is now an operator's console
%OPCOM-W-NOOPCOM, the request was not sent, the OPCOM process is not running

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-14 9:11

CARMACK = GOD

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-14 11:33

I can't think of any other public figure that can speak authoritatively on graphics programming and have everyone listen. He's the Bruce Schneier of Graphics Programming. And he open-sources his old shit, fuck yeah!
And the Commander Keen series was pretty good.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-14 12:24

He's a very good graphics programmer and engineer. He sucks at making games though. You should read the "Master of Doom" book, it's a pretty interesting read.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-14 12:40

>>23
He's the Bruce Schneier of Graphics Programming.
Overrated and mediocre?

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-14 12:43

>>25
Y-yeah.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-14 15:03

>>26
Sorry for offending you, Bruce.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-15 3:31

Video games are toy programs.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-15 5:22

>>27
Bruce Schneier has actually done some stunning work, it's weird that he gets looked up to because usually the idiots are popular

Name: =+=*=F=R=O=Z=E=N==V=O=I=D=*=+= !frozEn/KIg 2009-07-15 6:38

>>28 Without Video Games your precious Lunix would not exist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Travel_%28video_game%29

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Name: Anonymous 2009-07-15 9:45

>>30
What's so precious about Lunix? We don't use Commodore 64 machines today

Name: =+=*=F=R=O=Z=E=N==V=O=I=D=*=+= !frozEn/KIg 2009-07-15 9:53

>>31 see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system#Unix_and_Unix-like_operating_systems



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Name: Anonymous 2009-07-15 10:15

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Name: Anonymous 2009-07-15 11:34

出た!!!!

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-15 11:58

>>32
That has nothing to do with Commodore 64. Learn to comprehend.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-30 3:11

>>36
That does look tempting!

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-30 3:39

>>36
What the fuck, $78 is way too excpensive for (counterfeit) shoes. Do I look like a woman?

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-30 4:19

>>38
Just pay for them in counterfeit dollars.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-30 6:43

>>38
You probably look like a counterfeit woman.

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