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Infinite Compression Explained

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-06-24 10:03

Because most of you don't read my blog,(i don't read random blogs as well) and have so much questions about what i'm doing with my programs, i'll write it here:
All of the programs(about 6 developed so far) despite wildly varying routines are targeted to generate large integers.
These integers are not files. Following transformations occurs:
encode
1.file is converted to large integer X(arbitrary length).
2.X multiplied by some scale factor e.g. 10e1000 to get a lower bound
2.(X+1)by some scale factor e.g. 10e1000 to get an uppper bound
3.a search is performed for finding numbers inside that range which are easy to represent via formula.
4.if number(s) found its saved to a file.
decode:
1.a formula is supplied with number(s) and filesize
2.the formula generates an integer/float, which is then divided by scale factor(e.g. 10e1000).
3.the first filesize bytes are then written to output.

the proces isn't perfected yet, because the formulas currently used in my programs either too slow to search or cuttoff at float precision(for non-integer parameters)
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Name: Anonymous 2009-06-24 16:54

>>37
Shh FrozenVoid is 1337 hax0r

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-24 17:08

>>39
You don't need any "wherewithal" to prove that this can't possibly work.

It was proven a decades ago (and it's an obvious, utterly trivial proof), and the fact that /prog/ gets trolled so easily is really disheartening.

Data compression is always one of the areas that attracts the most stupidity for some reason. And /prog/ is attracted to the low hanging fruit of proving obviously retarded stuff wrong.

You fags are sure getting trolled, and you deserve every bit of it. Shame that /prog/ gets ruined in the meantime, for I can barely stand to look at this faggotry now.

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-24 17:14

>>42
I don't think you quite understand what sage is for. Only use sage for posts you don't feel are worthy of bumping the thread. Please refrain from using sage as a sign of disapproval; thank you. :)

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-24 17:20

>>43
Was that reply worth a bump?

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-24 17:32

>>42
We have a saying in /prog/, "If in a thread you don't know who the troll is, YHBT". I think this applies pretty well here, as you clearly can't tell. Everyone here already knows that infinite compression is impossible, but we derive great humour from ignoring that and playing along with that idiot.HIBMT?

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-24 17:48

>>44
I actually meant to use sage, but I genuinely forgot.

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-24 17:54

>>45
Actually, the OP's idea actually has some merit. I suppose if you were to make a comparison, the OP reminds me of Howard Roark or Hank Rearden, for those of you familiar with Ayn Rand. A true individualist, constantly innovating and never sitting still.

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-24 18:07

>>47
I lol'd

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-24 20:12

>>47
you know who also never sits still? kids with ADHD

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-24 21:14

>>5
Why would you "compress" a byte to a float power? A float power takes 4 bytes to store, your compression actually inflated it by 3 bytes, a 300% size increase.

Well, we'll wait until you can actually get it to work.

IHBT

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-24 22:40

>>50
Don't tell him that...

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-25 0:07

>>50
The idea doesn't work but this is not a good criticism. The point was illustrative, it even said in the post it was not meant for a single byte.

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-06-25 3:37

New decimal conversion function complete performance ~1mb/sec (x100000 faster)

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Name: Anonymous 2009-06-25 5:03

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-06-25 5:04

never mind it appears to corrupt files. i'm going to try to update to latest GCC and try it again.

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Name: Anonymous 2009-06-25 5:50

>>55
yes, obviously GCC is the culprit

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-25 6:01

>>56
>>54
dont see his posts

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-25 6:11

Such hilarity. It's even funnier that he doesn't see what's wrong with his idea, and even prematurely implements it without verifying the soundness of the idea, and he blames the compiler for what is likely faults within the code and the actual concept (try another compiler if you believe it's the compiler's fault). We could just ignore him (forever) until he produces something which works and can be tested.

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-25 6:13

oh, and don't bother explaining this with any theory as reasoning with math is impossible with FV, after all he still believes that 0.9 != 1 even after multiple proofs being shoved in his face.

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-25 6:14

>>57
don't bump his threads

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-25 6:15

>>60
IT WAS TOP ANYWAY FAG

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-25 6:18

>>59
well he's 16, he doesn't need to listen to anybody because he is always right

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-06-25 6:21

>>58
I never compiled with GCC(previous GCC installs get corrupted and fail). I'm installing it to link with GMP.
Please read posts more carefully next time.


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Name: Anonymous 2009-06-25 6:23

>>61
stop bumping the top thread.
where are all these perverts with this weird thread-bumping fetish coming from?

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-25 6:25

>>63
HOW ABOUT _MY_ POSTS? YOU FUCKING FAGGOT PIECE OF SHIT USELESSTRASHMOTHERFUCKRETRAINANAL

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-25 6:28

you can't fool others if you're fooling yourself

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-25 6:31

>>63
i lol'd.
invisible poster is telling US to read his posts more carefully, completely missing his flagrant hypocrisy

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-25 6:39

invisible poster is telling US to read his posts more carefully, completely missing his flagrant hypocrisy
how do you know what he's telling us if his posts are invisible?

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-25 6:41

>>68
it's a nickname, shit for brains.
i told you last time FV.
i haven't had the /prog/fixer on for some time now

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-06-25 7:11

GMP is finally working.

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Name: Anonymous 2009-06-25 8:26

i didnt see his posts

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-06-25 9:05

Does GMP has a way for using float exponents like 2^2.123211?
 i can see only mpf_pow_ui (mpf_t rop, mpf_t op1, unsigned long int op2)



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Name: FrozenVoid 2009-06-25 9:09

This is serious limitation, as i've already converted half of my current code to GMP.


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Name: Anonymous 2009-06-25 9:20

>>73
Your knowledge of math is a serious limitation.

Convert 2.123211 to a rational.

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-06-25 9:35

>>74 Converting to rational wouldn't change the fact its not unsigned long int as its required.
http://gmplib.org/manual/Rational-Arithmetic.html#Rational-Arithmetic provide no rational or floating point exponents.


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Name: Anonymous 2009-06-25 9:39

>>75
I will nudge you with programming tips, but if you don't know math, why even fucking bother with this shit?

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-06-25 9:42

>>76 Well, what is the alternative of raising a number to ^floating.point number if there is none provided?



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Name: Anonymous 2009-06-25 9:43

>>77
Research exponentiation. Be enlightened.

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-06-25 9:47

Fine, I'm going to use MAPM for computations and GMP for data conversion.
Because it has this simple function float^float. and GMP has mpz_out_str (FILE *stream, int base, mpz_t op)

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Name: FrozenVoid 2009-06-25 9:50

Unfortunately it wouldn't work.
../../lib/gcc/mingw32/3.4.5/../../../mapm.lib: file not recognized: File format
not recognized

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