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New and revolutionary data comression scheme!

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-13 17:17

Infinite compression?

I've always was interested in how compressed files worked and why the compression factor is so low.
The entropy explanation isn't something i would accept without tinkering with the data. The idea of my compression algorithm(currently under development) is to
use algebraic properties of files to express the data in more concise way.
The thing might sound trivial, but its implementation is not.
Normal compression works by splitting FILE and finding redundant pieces to express them in minimum volume.
Imagine a FILE read and converted to arbitrary precision integer. Now consider all the myriad ways to generate said integer. Sounds difficult? Not so much.
1.lets take a Prime Number,e.g. 2 and raise it to power closest to our integer, e.g. 20000. Note the difference from the (FILE-result).
2.Get the smallest difference with the powers available,
and proceed to next step:
3.If the difference is negative: find 2 raised to the power
of X which would close the gap,by substracting it from #1
If the difference is positive just add 2 with closest power to the difference .
The end result could be something like
2^6+2^5-2^3+2^1-2^0=Integer=FILE
Its can be improved further by using other prime numbers powers with the idea of expression taking the least space.
The same thing can be accomplished with arbitrary length floating point numbers like 2^123712.1282 which would converge faster,but will require some fixing to convert to a stable binary result.
Posted by FrozenVoid at 15:37

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-19 6:26

>>160
Please don't talk about things you don't understand. Thanks, hopefully you wont scare away any real responses.

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-06-19 6:37

>>161 Repeating yourself isn't a convincing argument.



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Name: Anonymous 2009-06-19 6:38

>>162
wrong.
it convinced me!
show's what you know, invisible poster

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-06-19 6:45

>>163 "It convinced me" is analogous "Everyone should believe what i believe in without questioning me" aka religion.

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Name: Anonymous 2009-06-19 6:48

>>164
no, it's analogous to "I would never believe that idiot FrozenVoid over my friendly neighbourhood Anonymous" aka discrimination against the mentally handicapped.

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-19 6:53

>>165
But, FrozenVoid is the greatest mind in this century and you should believe me. Because i said.

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-19 6:56

>>166
Nice try, invisible poster, but it doesn't work that way.

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-19 6:58

>>167
I'm very visible. Its just you choose to ignore me.
--Friendly Neighbourhood Anonymous

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-19 7:00

>>168
It's rather odd that someone who spends so much time tripfagging doesn't understand the concept of a nickname.

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-19 7:03

>>169
Anonymous isn't a nickname. Its a default identity. You refer to it as "voice of the masses" but ignore that anyone could be anonymous.

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-19 7:08

>>170
ahem.
You refer to it as "voice of the masses" but ignore that anyone could be anonymous.
wat?
this is a troll, right?
a non-FV troll i mean

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-19 7:11

>>171
What is the difference between FrozenVoid and Anonymous?

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-19 7:16

>>172
FrozenVoid (you) likes to draw attention to himself by using an obnoxious name and signature.
It's akin to walking down a public street without wearing pants; everybody will look at you, but not for positive reasons.

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-19 7:18

>>173
In that case, my friend it is you who isn't wearing pants.
Everyone in real life has a name. All those people on the street have IDs or passports,drivers licenses, etc.

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-19 7:24

>>174
We are not currently walking down a street.
We are currently talking on world4ch, an anonymous programming BBS. Offline I have a name. On other websites I have a name.
Ofcourse that's pretty damn obvious, you're just playing dumb.
IHBT

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-06-19 7:25

>>175
Now, with your 'anonymous society' fantasy concluded, lets get back to business.
Anyone suggest what haskell code is suitable to http://frozenvoid.blogspot.com/2009/04/polynomial-compression.html
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Name: Anonymous 2009-06-19 7:29

>>176
i can't tell whether you intentionally miss the point or whether you just have ADHD or something.
oh wait, i forgot, you don't bother actually reading other people's posts

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-06-19 7:34

>>177
Your interpretation is too literal.
When you say "akin to walking down a public street" you implicitly describe the worldview of this "public street"
which is strangely exactly what you think of "Anonymous worldview" i.e. submission and conformity to the masses.
The 'Anonymous Society' isn't real. Its an illusion which people take for granted when they lack information("stranger","Passerby","somebody") who are normal identifiable people.  

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Name: Anonymous 2009-06-19 7:45

>>178
you're an idiot. like i said before, you completely missed to point.
what the hell is your obsession with "conformity"? what are you, 14?
4chan has a culture of anonymity, just as public streets have a culture of wearing clothes. if you purposely try to go against that culture you will be shunned and disliked.

guess what. 99% of forums on the internet require you to make an account, login, and post with a name; this place just happens to be different, it doesn't require that bullshit. people here prefer to post without a name and talk to other nameless people. you should either learn respect that desire or leave - the internet is large enough that i'm sure you can find some place where people welcome your faggotry with open arms.

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-06-19 7:53

>>179
Aren't we forgetting something? "this place just happens to be different", but not:
The place where people "prefer to post without a name" doesn't restrict posting with a name and a tripcode.
Its as anonymous as you want it to be. Thus your nagging that people shouldn't have a name, just because majority doesn't have it is pure conformity."4chan has a culture of anonymity" aka everyone  "should learn respect that desire" for conformity.


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Name: Anonymous 2009-06-19 7:54

>>179
Less posting, more shunning.

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-19 7:56

>>181
Lets burn the heretic.

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-19 7:57

>>180
ugh.
nobody on /prog/ uses the tripcode functions. most people here dislike that kind of thing.
go to /r9k/, it's 4chan's haven for people like you.

if you were a TRUE anti-conformist you would hit your dick with a hammer. you know why? BECAUSE YOU CAN! nobody is stopping you! INFACT you're CONFORMING by NOT hitting your dick with a hammer.
quick! do it now before you catch the conformity virus!
I'M NOT JOKING, ANTI-CONFORMIST.
HIT YOUR DICK WITH A HAMMER NOW OR ELSE YOU ARE A CONFORMIST

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-06-19 8:00

>>183
Non-sense, milkribs uses a tripcode.

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Name: Anonymous 2009-06-19 8:03

>>184
milkribs is a tourist.

now, aren't you going to hit your dick with a hammer, anti-conformist?
you're conforming to society's idea of common sense if you don't.

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-06-19 8:04

>>185
You're mixing "common sense" with "conformism". Learn the difference first, then post.

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Name: Anonymous 2009-06-19 8:08

>>186
acting according to certain accepted standards; "i don't think it's a very good idea to hit your dick with a hammer".

hey hey, FV, riddle me this: where does common sense come from if not society?
doh ho ho, common sense is learned from the people around you. common sense IS conformity. my common sense dictates that i should wear clothes when i go outside, but some african tribesman's common sense is that clothes restrict his movement and make him slower at running.
if i was born in the same tribe, would i still think it's inappropriate to walk around naked? no, i would think it is common sense to run around naked.

you just don't get it, do you?

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-06-19 8:13

Common sense isn't conformity. Its like comparing cars with oranges.
Conformity is at best an conservative guiding force in society, common sense is personal wisdom which can be non-conformist as well as conformist, depending on the person. Someone who is fairly involved in social circles would absorb knowledge far more conformist then those who build their 'common sense' in solitude.
When people talk about 'common sense' they refer to their own version of such 'sense' and describe why your version is defective(aka "Common sense isn't so common").

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Name: Anonymous 2009-06-19 8:19

>>188
no, you are wrong.
now i'm going to do what you commonly do:
>Common sense (or, when used attributively as an adjective, commonsense, common-sense, or commonsensical), based on a strict construction of the term, consists of what people in common would agree on: that which they "sense" (in common) as their common natural understanding.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_sense

the "common" part of "common sense" refers to the fact that it is shared among many people.

"Common sense isn't so common" is just a pun.
facepalm.txt.

now go away and never come back please.
you make /prog/ unpleasant.

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-19 8:21

>>189
Please don't respond to invisible posts!

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-06-19 8:23

>>189
Common !=conformity. Isn't this hard to imagine e.g. water which is common resource,
 but drinking water doesn't make you conformist.
"you make /prog/ unpleasant." Truth hurts. In my edition its even stinging.

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Name: Anonymous 2009-06-19 8:27

Truth hurts. In my edition its even stinging.
i have no idea what this is supposed to mean.
did i hurt your feelings that bad? sorry :'(
here, have a hug.

but seriously now, leave.
i'm going to stop responding to you now. you obviously don't know how to admit when you're wrong - but i suppose that's just because teenagers are never wrong, ammirite?

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-06-19 8:30

>>192
I have no intent to admit "wrong" when i'm right, just to please you and your conformist buddies.
You have to prove that i'm wrong, instead of declaring me "wrong" to have any effect.

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Name: Anonymous 2009-06-19 8:32

>>193
In a couple years your going to look back on this and either feel deeply ashamed or lol at your stupidity depending on your personality.

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-06-19 8:39

>>194
Ah, you expect me to integrate into your little /borg/ hive? Highly unlikely.
As for old threads, i don't read them, unless i'm searching for something.

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Name: Anonymous 2009-06-19 9:26

Lets not listen.

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-19 9:34

>>196
I lol'd

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-19 10:04

Oh God. I see stupid argumentation and note a number of missing posts. This can only mean that you haven't successfully ignored /prog/'s greatest contributor!

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-19 10:33

>>198
Actually, we've decided to nurture his trolling spirit to see what happens.

Name: Anonymous 2009-06-19 10:52

>>195
You're an anus!

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