Python vs Ruby actually Django vs Mongrel

This is not which one is better but which one is easier for someone who has never approached this style of web application development before. I'm coming from a PHP and Perl background but I'm looking at jumping on the MVC bandwagon, the problem is that I'm not very familiar with either of these frameworks and was wondering which one is easier to get your head around. I've looked at starting guides for both and i'm equally lost for both.

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No. I'm just sick of people complaining when they struggle to use tools to perform tasks not particularly intended when the tool was originally conceived.

In this case, I am talking about web apps. I have problems with web apps that are far better served as Java applets or stand alone binaries; this would be the vast majority of these so called ``web apps''. Use HTML as it was intended, a way to  disseminate textual information, not as a way to deliver some sort of turn-key application.