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THE FORCED BACKWARD INCOMPATIBILITY

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-27 16:00

Do you see FIOC 3000 ever taking off as the de-facto FIOC standard, or we'll have around 2.x forever? I know that there's code that won't be updated, it's a shame having to maintain the older branch for ages to come. Shame on you, Guido.

It also worries me that not much stuff is getting updated at all, and even now stuff popping out right now is written for 2.x.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-27 16:13

Unlikely.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-27 16:14

>>1
Much of what was removed/added to 2.x was so obvious that I knew that it was wrong before I even got myself to learn Python properly, just by looking at Python programs.
Guido may be a good VM engineer, but he is verily a shitty language designer.  And a retard.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-27 17:04

>>3
Guido may be a good VM engineer
Aren't there several better implementations?

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-27 17:22

what's the point of 3.0?  OCD?  Harder for beginners?

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-27 17:31

>>5
Maybe better Unicode supoort, dunno.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-27 17:37

>>4
ruby

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-27 18:54

>>4
Name them

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-27 19:11

>>8
stackless python, ironpython, etc.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-27 19:33

Some people, when confronted with a problem, think, "I know, I'll break backwards compatibility." Now they have two problems.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-27 19:36

>>9
No, I mean, not other implementations, but better implementations.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-27 20:27

>>11
stackless and iron are better.
unless you think portability and speed are bad things, that is.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-27 20:29

>>11
pypy will be, eventually

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-27 20:37

>>13
Let's be honest, here: unladen-swallow is much more likely to produce something that's actually less shit than cpython. pypy is a pipe dream and everyone knows it.

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-28 0:52

>>14
Which brings us to our next discussion point; LLVM: awesome or awesome?

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-28 0:54

>>14
pypy
Pronounced pay-pay

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-28 0:55

>>15
Ladies Love Virtual Machines

Name: Anonymous 2009-05-28 11:27

Don't think anyone will migrate to Python9000 any time soon. Especially Linux platforms often have a shitload of Python applications/libraries/dependencies. While some will probably upgrade in time (i.e. next millenium), some won't, so we are stuck with the old applications or have to move to something new... which obviously won't happen, since NEW THINGS TEND TO BREAK SHIT THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY WORKING.

Besides, print() is just fucking gay.

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