ZZ? I don't think I've ever used that for saving. Usually I never even have to exit vim. A simple :w (to save) with :! to run other commands means vim can do anything I want it to.
Usually I never even have to exit vim
Vim is the new emacs?
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Anonymous2009-03-15 19:23
vim sucks. Actually all text based-text editors do. I don't see the point at all, unless you're in the 80's.
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Anonymous2009-03-15 19:23
Is Vim the new Javascript operating system?
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Anonymous2009-03-15 19:27
It's shit.
I mean, C-x C-s for save? Come on.
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Anonymous2009-03-15 19:46
Vim is a joke. What sane person would want to have 3 (THREE!!!) distinct modes for editing, navigating and selecting? Vim scripting is pig disgusting. Awkward qwerty-bound keys. No isearch navigation. No LISP extensions. Nothing.
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Anonymous2009-03-15 19:55
vi is the standard. You may not like it, that's ok, but when your telnetted into an Solaris or AIX boxen you don't get you're emacs or you're NOTEPAD.EXE to play with. No! You must hjkl like an heterosexual man!
When I use an editor, I don't want eight extra KILOBYTES of worthless help screens and cursor positioning code! I just want an EDitor!!
Not a "viitor". Not a "emacsitor". Those aren't even WORDS!!!!
ED! ED! ED IS THE STANDARD!!!
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Anonymous2009-03-15 20:01
Vi is pretty much entirely the wrong way to go about making an ed-inspired screen editor, and Vim just compounds the failure.
>>1
ZZ is not for save, it's for save if modified and quit.
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Anonymous2009-03-15 20:58
>>19
You save without quitting? HAHAHA. No wonder you use vi, dumbass.
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Anonymous2009-03-15 21:13
vi is designed for a specific type of user in mind, one who either edits or navigates through a file and doesn't switch much between the two modes. I don't know about you, but writing code usually follows this style, unless you're an IDE-using codemonkey.
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Anonymous2009-03-15 22:01
>>21 Did you mean: typing in code from your textbook
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Anonymous2009-03-15 22:37
>>21
>vi is good if you don't actually intend to do much programming
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Anonymous2009-03-15 22:48
vi is good if you know which part of the file you want to edit and don't want to play ddr on your keyboard to get there.
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Anonymous2009-03-15 22:59
>>24
there are alot of good IDEs that allow you to jump to a specified line
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Anonymous2009-03-15 23:01
>>24
Vi use is all DDR. You know what wouldn't be? A mouse. And a scrollbar.
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Anonymous2009-03-15 23:03
>>26
Oh look, vim supports mice, and gvim even has scrollbars
is there a way to emulate the alt+direction keys text selection mnemonic in vi? switching between three modes to do some copy&paste or whatever is pretty shitty.
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Anonymous2009-03-15 23:07
there are alot of good IDEs that allow you to jump to a specified line
how many of them allow you to jump to a specified line with only 2+log10(line number-1) keystrokes?
and how many of them let you use regular expressions to move to a certain point in the file?
Vi use is all DDR.
no, emacs is all ddr.
You know what wouldn't be? A mouse. And a scrollbar.
i can probably start vi, finish whatever edit i started vi to do, save the file, and exit in the amount of time it takes you to move your hand from your keyboard to your mouse.
a mouse is ok for drawing pictures but not as good as a tablet, and pretty much useless for anything else.
Keyfags are so funny. In one breath that they admit that mice are perfect for indicating one among many screen locations, then by the next they've forgotten that selecting a character on the screen is exactly the same problem.
>>36
is that what gnu is calling their broken ed now?
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Anonymous2009-03-16 0:27
>>33 1200*800
All real programmers have at least that many characters on their screens. That's the whole reason man invented multiple displays and 72" monitors: More text than he can ever possibly read in a mere mortal's lifetime, let alone a single week.