You all act as if you hate it, but we all know it's your favourite language and you're just trolling so that other people won't learn it and see its brilliance.
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Anonymous2009-03-03 0:32
I hope no kids learn C++. That way I will continued to be in demand and paid a high salary.
>>9 Traditions don't die. Their proponents go extinct.
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Anonymous2009-03-03 2:46
>>10
Proponents of a tradition don't go extinct. They simply become rare enough that nobody gives a shit anymore.
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FrozenVoid2009-03-03 2:51
>>11 Thats what keeps them alive. Just like with natural languages: they are transmitted by people knowing them.
Languages that get extinct simply lose all speakers and become a piece of history.
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Anonymous2009-03-03 3:02
>>12
Languages in this day and age cannot go extinct because the very fact that they are documented means that they are practicable. Also in some cases; they extent to which they are practiced is rare they will never truly die. Fortunately the same could not be said of you; and you will go extinct well before humanity achieves satori (read: immortality).
>>13 yet, you're too stubborn to understand my name could be reused by millions,not necessary even humans.
The ideas are forever. When i talk about language extinction I mean the nature of extinction is that language ceases to be natural and become a dead set of rules and translation terms.
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nobody would ever want to use your name(unless they were trolling /prog/ ofcourse.)
i'm amazed that you haven't realised how juvenile 'frozenVoid' sounds yet
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FrozenVoid2009-03-03 3:43
>>16 The idea remains. The name is going to be used: i don't set standards on its use, i just say that its possible.
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even if someone does use your name for whatever reason, it's not referring to the same individual & ∴ does not grant you 'immortality' as you seem to think it will
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FrozenVoid2009-03-03 3:51
>>18 What makes an individual, and cannot be deduced from the posts?
There isn't the case with 'Anonymous' posters:
someone using my name has a connection with me or my ideas.
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no, you are wrong.
you see? i have changed my name; and yet, i am the same person.
only an idiot would assume that every invisible post is perpetrated by the same arsehole.
i can easily pretend to be FrozenVoid - but that does not mean i am
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FrozenVoid2009-03-03 4:04
>>22
If you pretend to be me, (or i would put it, be my “intellectual minion”) you start sharing my identity.
You're the same person in Real Life. Yet in this medium, names are your identity.
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FrozenVoid2009-03-03 4:10
The names, simple strings of letters, serve to distinguish us from the crowds of nameless strangers.
When you take a name, you choose one identity from the multitude of many.
You choose your personal projection into this world.
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FrozenVoid2009-03-03 4:20
>>26
keep the conversation in your head, people will start thinking we're a schizophrenic otherwise
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FrozenVoid2009-03-03 4:23
>>27 I have no problem talking to you,even if you use my name.
Popular opinion isn't critical for me.
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FrozenVoid 2009-03-03 4:27
>>28
what do you mean "using your name"?
i am FrozenVoid. if anything, you stop using my name
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FrozenVoid2009-03-03 4:32
>>29 Sharing my name, if that offends you. You're what you choose to be.
If you read >>24 you'll understand what i mean.
Names aren't unique. Your choice of name is unique.
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FrozenVoid2009-03-03 4:37
i call my cat a cat, but my weeaboo friend calls my cat a neko.
are we speaking about different cats, or the same one?
if we both call different cats 'cat', are we speaking about the same cat?
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>>31 The concept of the cat you hold as yours is unquestionably different from other people.
Subtle or significant, we have unique interpretations and meaning for every word.
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FrozenVoid2009-03-03 4:45
>>30 The name is external identity. Sharing names is what i describe.
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FrozenVoid2009-03-03 4:45
>>34
in that case and by our own logic, the name FrozenVoid holds 0% significance as far as identifying us goes - infact, all names (not just ours) are completely meaningless to people who are not us.
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FrozenVoid2009-03-03 4:49
>>36 It does hold significance: your position isn't universal.
Names transmit information about our personae. What you choose: a name,an avatar, a signature is
sending information of your personality to the outside world.
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FrozenVoid2009-03-03 4:55
>>37
what personality?
i can say right now, with the highest possibly accuracy that my name and signatures do not represent my personality. and yet, it is still my name and signature.
how odd
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FrozenVoid2009-03-03 4:57
>>38 The roles you act online are your personality. If it isn't clear to you.
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