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Name: Anonymous 2008-09-22 21:36

What the fuck?  He hasn't been SICP'd or ENTERPRISE TURKEY BULLSHITE'd yet.

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Name: Anonymous 2008-09-23 21:16

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You can still have some dynamic shit and statically compile stuff -- Sepples is a shit example of this with shitty RTTI. Haskell is probably a better example -- dynamic typing via inference can be compiled statically.

The Starkiller project1,2 which I've mentioned a couple of times was a static type inferencer for Python. It works in almost every sane place, except when you're doing weird shit like dynamically importing modules and calling eval. I think there were also some issues resolving the dynamic scope (which is an issue, considering dynamic name resolution is a serious bottleneck in Python interpreters) but I can't find any references.

And, as I've fucking mentioned before, Psyco3 is a fucking crazy JIT for Python which caches the exact instructions executed by the interpreter when functions are called, then replaces the functions with those cached instructions such that future calls don't touch the interpreter at all. It does some hackish shit to work around the dynamic bits, but the end result is that code which the interpreter would bottleneck (tight loops and numeric shit) gets an incredible speedup.

AFAIK, Psyco only works on x86 machines and doesn't play nicely with embedded Python though (it definitely doesn't work for mod_python, which is where I wanted to use it).

As far as performance is concerned, last I checked PyPy hadn't really produced any results4 (though it hopefully will, eventually). It's got some damn cool sandboxing features5 though.

Anyway, did any of you faggots have something to discuss other than "BAWWWWW PYTHON ISN'T C AND DOESN'T PRODUCE NATIVE BINARIES YET"?

                               
[sup]References:
[1] http://web.mit.edu/msalib/www/urop/
[2] http://www.sauria.com/~twl/conferences/pycon2004/20040324/Starkiller.txt
[3] http://psyco.sourceforge.net/
[4] http://tuatara.cs.uni-duesseldorf.de/benchmark.html
[5] http://codespeak.net/pypy/dist/pypy/doc/sandbox.html

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