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Common lisp is bloated

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-26 21:30

I'm not a lisper myself, but I thought i should ask you. I have just read the wikipedia article on Common Lisp that describes lots of features. Particularly, the inclusion of an ENTERPRISE object-oriented paradigm and some macro syntax that looks like valid perl code.

So, is ((SCHEME)) better?

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-26 22:00

Not sure what you're asking, but Scheme is an academic toy language, so no it is not better than CL. At least CL is trying to be somewhat useful for doing real work (solving the 8 queens problem or writing recursive fibonacci is not real work.)

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-26 22:09

No.  Java is better.  No bloat there.

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-26 22:19

>>2
I mean, I like the idea of "syntax = parentheses", or almost that.

But.. real work it's very wide. IMHO you can can do anything with proper libraries/bindings.

How complex would be the bindings for, say, gtk? Yeah, the syntax would become more underscores than parentheses, but you'll be doing more than printing to stdout

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-26 22:19

>>3
wat

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-26 22:49

Lisp and its variants are not a language for the making of serious programs, but are an aid in reaching Satori (along with SICP).

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-27 0:28

>>4
I think gtk's clisp bindings substitute hyphens for the underscores.

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-27 5:08

the inclusion of an ENTERPRISE object-oriented paradigm

CLOS boils down to glorified structs with inheritance and generic functions.

some macro syntax that looks like valid perl code.

Scheme supports the same style. Besides, what's so hard about


 `   "escapable" quote
 ,   insert crap
 ,@  insert crap (splice in place)

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-27 5:12

>>1
No, common lisp is better.

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-27 6:24

Scheme: small and well designed
Common Lisp: random features from a lot of other Lisps put together (cf. Frankenstein's monster)

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-27 13:56

>>10
OP here, in before someone says you are the same fag as me

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-27 14:36

CL: lots of features built in, usable across implementations.
Scheme: you have to Greenspin your own CL. Implementations vary wildly.

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-27 16:48

>>1,10,11
same fag

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