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Name: Anonymous 2008-03-18 7:12



    I'm a CS major and I just realized something tragic: I know nothing about Linux. So, I've decided that during this summer, I shall reformat my hard drive and install a dual-boot of Linux and Windows XP (emoticon edition. Not to be confused with Windows XD). Anyhow, I need to decide what to install. I know some people who have had good luck with Debian, and I know a guy who has gotten insane errors with Gentoo that he claims nobody on the Gentoo message boards had ever seen before. However, Gentoo looks all pretty and shiny, but I'm pretty sure that I've read that Debian has a stable version out.

    Anyhow, keeping all this in mind, I want to know what sort of Linux you of the 4chan programming board would advise me to get. I imagine that this thread will probably dissolve into a flame war about ephemeral characteristics about each version that make it "better" such as "Only noobs use Gentoo!" or "Redhat sucks!" or perhaps "Real men use Debian!" But! In the moment between the first posting of this and the eruption of a flame war, I imagine that information might be able to be gleaned upon the subject by me. So, thanks ahead of time.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-18 7:25

>>1
Rather than pissing about with dual boot hassle, get a shell account, or a Linux virtual server. I would advise the latter, with a cheap one such as vpslink.com or similar.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-18 7:26

>>2
I forgot to mention, that way you can test out several distributions without the annoyance of having to wait ages for the install to finish.

But if you want to actually install them yourself, I recommend VMWare Server or Virtual PC rather than a dual boot.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-18 7:37

>>1
Don't use some shitty (popular) distro, go with Arch Linux like a real man.  Or Debian if you like bloat.

You could also use Chubuntu if you want a lot of problems and a forum of support for newbies by newbies.  On the upside, you'll quickly learn how to add new package repositories, because that is the solution to every problem in Chubuntu.

http://archlinux.org/

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-18 7:57

LFS.

Build the whole fucking system from source. I'm doing it inside a virtual machine. I can just let it compile in the background while I do other stuff. There's definitely something encouraging about putting stuff together and then watching it boot to a shell.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-18 8:00

>>5
Fuck yeah. Have fun compiling X11.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-18 8:04

>>5
I can just let it compile in the background while I do other stuff.
BECAUSE YOU CANT DO THAT WITH GENTOO, HUH FAGGOT!!!!!!!!!!!?‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽

IMMA KILL U!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-18 8:36

coLinux .

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-18 9:49

Buy a second hand ThinkPad. Install FreeBSD.

Proceed to become in love with both and turn into an elitist asshole.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-18 10:34

Start with Ubanto (best for Lunix beginners), then switch to Zenwalk or something.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-18 10:41

>>10
Hi, I'm having problems booting Ubantu.
I loaded Ubantu and had Grub installed to the MBR (I would have preferred it in the Linux partition but was not given a choice). After installation the machine booted OK and I was able to access Win98. On the next boot and everytime afterwards I got a error 17. Particularly frustrating as I couldn't access the net from the live Ubanto disk. Not being able to resolve the error 17 problem I reinstalled Windows and Boot Magic.
As predicted the Linux option on Boot Magic failed to load Ubantu so I have just followed instuctions and loaded Grub to (hd0,5). I presume this is the correct partition as Ubantu is on hda6. Installation went OK as per messages. Boot Magic on the MBR should then open Grub and hence Ubantu, according to posted messages.
Unfortunately Ubanto still doesn't boot from Boot Magic. So have I put Grub in the wrong place or is the error 17 still the problem? I notice that Boot Magic lists Linux as Primary Partition 4, Partition Magic has it as the 6th listed (logical) partition, and the partition table in Ubantu has Linux as ext3 hda6 while hda4 is an almost empty ext2 Linux partition.
I've installed Grub on to a floppy. This also gives an error 17 when Linux is selected.
Any ideas? This is my first attempt at Linux so please don't assume I have prior knowledge.
Thanks

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-18 11:00

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-18 11:01

Hmm, I would suggest you install Xubanto, it has an excellent user interface.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-18 11:36

>>12
You Have Been Trolled, as they say around here.
>>13
You have been caught being sarcastic.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-18 12:10

>>14
you have been caught copy/pasting posts from ubantoforums trolls.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-18 12:14

You Have Been Trolled, as they say around here.
They never say that around here. Welcome to /prog/, HAND.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-18 12:33

>>14
YHBT Haskell Beginners Tutorials.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-18 12:36

>>15
This might surprise you, but that was not a troll, it was a genuine help request.

>>17
This might surprise you, but I invented that meme.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-18 14:04

fork()

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-18 14:13

>>13
Hey, I'm using Xubanto right now.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-18 14:50

Gnome: Why would anyone want a smelly foot on their desktop?
KDE: The K stands for Krap.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-18 14:54

>>21
XFCE reminds me of XKCD

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-18 15:18

>>20
Are you enjoying the Xubanto experience+

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-18 15:20

>>22
It's written ``Xfce''.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-18 15:23

>>24
All programming language, editor, environments, etc. names are acronyms, so they are spelled with all caps.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-18 15:26

XFCE Fast Cool Environment

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-18 15:55

CFLAGS JUST KICKED IN YO

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-18 16:40

XFCE is pronounced as ``X Feces''.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-18 17:27

>>28
exefsee

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-18 17:38

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Peyton_Jones
[...]Simon Peyton Jones (born in South Africa[...]
Ubanto

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-18 17:56

OP should make a small partition and try some distro's on it. if he really wants to know everything about how shit works he should also read a lot of manpages/howtos/whatever (someone has to do it).

as soon as he finds something that works, he should drop XP entirely -at least for a few weeks- because there will be times when he wants to switch back, hang in there OP!

as for which distro you'd use for this; i'm using ubuntu, but if you like tinkering with your computer i would go with gentoo. try both KDE and Gnome (KDE tends to be more advanced IMO).

a linux install doesn't need much space on the harddisk, so it's not expensive to have many of them on your system.

>>9

i'm thinking of buying a new laptop (this one is not fast enough to properly run ableton) and in the process switching to BSD, can you recommend some models which are completely compatible?

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-18 18:13

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-18 18:20

then after you feel okay with kde/gnome, switch to fluxbox. it took me quite a long time to feel "okay" with even having multiple window managers installed, I thought maybe it was this HUGE waste. but uh, they're pretty tiny really. I strictly use fluxbox now, it's very nice.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-18 18:24

USE XNomad

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-18 18:27

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-18 18:36

>>10
My Zenwalk installation's ld is fucked to shit. Any ideas how to fix it? I'm trying reinstalling binutils now.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-18 18:39

>>36
I suppose it's because you are using binary packages.

www.gentoo.org

www.opera.com (j/k)

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-19 2:18

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Name: Anonymous 2008-03-19 2:30

Windows XP (emoticon edition. Not to be confused with Windows XD)

I RAGED at this. As a consequence, I didn't read the rest of your post. Good luck!

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-19 3:12

>>38
I remember that pasta.

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