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Self taught programming

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-26 13:45

is it possible?

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-26 13:50

DRR

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-26 13:51

>>2
You mean DDR, or EMACS.

Name: University taught programming 2008-01-26 13:52

is it possible?

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-26 14:14

NO

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-26 15:40

>>1
It's the only way to learn programming, unless, of course, you mean  6.001.

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-26 16:23

If you started to code after the age of 12, there is no hope for you.

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-26 17:39

If you started to code before or at the age of 12, there is no hope for you.

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-26 17:52

If the age you started coding at <=> 12, there is no hope for you.

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-26 17:56

So the only way to learn programming is to start exactly when you are 12.

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-26 18:39

in before 12get

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-26 19:16

niggers

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-26 19:28

>>12 the young programmer has spoken

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-26 20:23

>>10
i don't think you understand the advanced concepts underlying <=>

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-03 7:57

bump

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-03 10:30

YES, although self-taught programmers mostly suck.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-03 10:33

>>16
That's the same for school-taught programmers, but I think more of them suck, as they are generally in it for the money.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-03 11:06

most self taught programmers end up hackers or crackers

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-03 11:36

>>18
I'm a hacker on steroids.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-03 11:50

>>19
um no, ur a cracker. hackers are teh good guys.

lrn2infosec.

sincererely,

ron dufresne

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-03 12:03

>>20
lrn2 FUCKING SPELL

And also, no. Black hat hackers exist. Crackers are a subset of those.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-03 17:54

I have always associated Black Hats with crackers.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-03 18:01

>>22
You are a moron.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-03 18:26

>>23
You're a nigger

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-03 20:45

What is this crap?

Hackers are guys who break computer security.

And, crackers break copy protections on software.

The only exception to this rule is idiots who insist on using archaic meanings of ``hacker'', such as Unix obsessives. These gentlemen can be safely ignored.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-03 21:29

um no guys, hackers=good guys. crackers=bad guys. ie

bugtraq,me,honeypots,full disclosure=hackers
phc,zf0=crackers=bad guys=script kiddies.

just get a girlfriend and a CEH and get a job, script kids.

sincerely,

ron dufresne

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-03 21:57

>>25
The only exception to this rule is idiots who insist on using archaic meanings of ``hacker'', such as Unix obsessives. These gentlemen can be safely ignored.
Too bad you're completely wrong.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-03 22:05

>>26
whoops, disregard that guys

i suck cocks

sincerely,

ron dufresne

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-04 1:24

http://m-w.com/dictionary/hacker
3  : an expert at programming and solving problems with a computer
4  : a person who illegally gains access to and sometimes tampers with information in a computer system

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hacker
3.    Computer Slang.
a.    a computer enthusiast.
b.    a microcomputer user who attempts to gain unauthorized access to proprietary computer systems.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-04 1:33

READ JARGON FILE

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-04 3:13

>>30
ONE WORD, esr, THREAD OVER.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-04 3:19

What does the e character in ``esr'' stand for?

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-04 3:20

>>32
Eric.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-04 4:05

>>33
Wrong. The E stands for ESR. Please use tail recursion, lazy evaluation and/or memoization optimization when evaluating this recursive acronym.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-04 4:10

>>34
No, it doesn't, you idiot. Read Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESR

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-04 4:20

i'm a self taught programmer and it's not all that great, maybe would have been if i would have devoted my entire teens and youth to learning but i had a life like regular kids so learning was slow

i still learned enough to drop out of high school and get a job at 18 though

but one thing i noticed later on when i could afford books like programming perl, beginning c and k&r, was that i learned things about these languages that i hadn't understood before, i had been programming without fully understanding the languages

this is why i recommend a good book over doing it yourself

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-04 4:35

>>35
YHBT

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-04 7:16

>>35
Electro Slag Remelting

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-04 7:26

>>36
OP here, when i said self taught i ment with books, not with college, etc.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-04 10:51

>>39
Not only is it possible, it's also basically the only way to learn to program well. Good college courses (especially the more theoretical ones) don't hurt, but there's nothing you can't learn by reading and applying what you've read.

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