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Name: Anonymous 2008-01-16 12:22

So, I've decided to learn a little about web development in my spare time since I figured it might be fun to do in my spare time and useful in the future. I have been trying to find some good resources on the subject, and have started using:
http://www.w3schools.com/default.asp
I haven't read a lot of it but it seems good thusfar. Any thoughts/advice on good resources (especially free internet-based ones) to learn about Web Development, or just advice on the topic in general for a beginner such as myself?
(also, I've been programming in other languages like C and python for awhile now so this isn't my first time programming, just in case that's important)

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-16 12:26

Read SICP

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-16 12:28

What do you mean by ``web development'' exactly? If you mean writing HTML, then that link is already one of the best, along with the official W3 spec.

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-16 12:31

Client-side, you should of course learn HTML and Javascript. Maybe Flash too, if you're interested in that sort of thing. But for development on the webserver, you have a lot of choices, depending on what you want to do. Both PHP and VBScript (using ASP) are by far the most popular languages, so you should probably start with one of those. If you want to do anything with databases, obviously you must learn SQL, but be aware that every single RDBMS has its own dialect and peculiarities.

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-16 12:32

>>2
Structure and Interpretation of Coldfusion Pages

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-16 12:35

>>5
Or lack thereof

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-16 12:38

>>1
Whatever you do, don't get suckered into the cult of Ruby fad.  Too bad Ruby on Rails is slow as fuck


www.djangoproject.com >

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-16 12:43

>>3

Sure, HTML to start, but HTML is fairly easy from my understanding, so hopefully it shouldn't take long to learn. I want to learn everything I can about making webpages, so Javascript and CSS and XML, SQL, and the like should be part of my learning too, right? Really, anything I can learn to make any kind of web page that I might need. Lets say, I'd like to learn everything I'd need to know to be able to make web pages that people could actually pay me to make for them, to make it simple.

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-16 12:45

>>7

Too bad Ruby is a good language.

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-16 12:53

>>8
LAMP is what you need. It's the basis of almost every non-Microsoft shared hosting package, and is very cheap.

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-16 14:36

>>9
Ruby is a ghetto. Zed Shaw told me so

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-16 15:24

HA HA HA DISREGARD THAT I SUCK DHH'S COCK

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-16 15:42

>>11

Rails is not Ruby.

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-16 16:20

>>13

wait, there's a difference? what what?

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-16 16:32

>>14 doesn't know what GNU stands for.

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-16 16:48

>>13
For all intents and purposes it might as well be. No one cared about Ruby until that God awful web application stack came along and it's cult like rabid Mac using TextMate evangalising ex-PHP-kiddie community.

Ruby is nothing more than a cheap clone of what's already been done in Perl and Python, just with go-faster stripes and viral marketing.

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-16 16:49

>>16
But that's just like your opinion, man. Try actually using it.

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-16 16:50

>>15
GNU's Not Unix. Please use tail recursion and/or lazy evaluation when evaluating this recursive acronym.

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-16 16:57

>>17
ruby -e '9001.times {puts "Been there, done that"}'

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-16 17:30

>>19
gb2bed Abelson

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-16 18:51

>>17
http://dis.4chan.org/read/prog/1188931649/43,49

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-16 19:02

>>21
I hope you're smart enough to understand why this is.

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-16 19:43

>>18
I used lazy evaluation:


gnu = gnu . ("'s Not Unix" ++)

main = do print gnu

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-16 19:59

>>22
Of course, it's not optimised as many of the other programs in that thread were. But it ran several times slower than algorithmically identical versions in Python and Java. The reason why is that Ruby is not particularly optimised for calculation.

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-16 19:59

>>16
TOO BAD THEY GET POPULAR SITES DONE REAL FAST

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-16 20:11

>>25
Agile programming? HAHA It's just newspeak for shipping the BETA and patching bugs on the fly.

Ruby on Fails: We don't need no testing / QA

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-16 20:16

>>26
AND IT MAKES THEM MONEY. RAGE MORE.

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-16 20:20

>>27
I'm raging so bad right now. p.s CRUISE CONTROL

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-16 20:53

Just do your web app in Lisp. It worked for Paul Graham.

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-16 21:09

http://www.boutell.com/cgic/

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-18 14:05

what skills does one need to make an adequate website, anyways?

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-18 14:06

>>31

Whatever skills you don't posses.

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-18 20:01

>>16
No one cared about Ruby until that God awful web application stack came along and it's cult like rabid Mac using TextMate evangalising ex-PHP-kiddie community.
I did. I began using Ruby a year or two before ROR, and stopped using it a few years later, having never used Rails. Now Python populates its ecological niche.

Ruby is nothing more than a cheap clone of what's already been done in Perl and Python, just with go-faster stripes and viral marketing.
That's quite accurate. And a huge crowd of Web 2.0 hipsters aren't helping the cause.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-18 3:30

Don't call me gay, but I need some mary jay!

Marijuana MUST be legalized.

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