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If you think XML is bad

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-30 8:36

Then consider this, as it could be a lot worse:

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Name: Anonymous 2007-10-31 23:27

XML isn't bad in and of itself -- it succeeds at being a markup language that is trivially machine readable and easy for humans to understand. Is it bloated? Sure. But so are lots of other markup languages.

XML sucks because ENTERPRISE programmers misuse it -- think about it.

Fuck, I've seen a dumbass programmer pass this shit over a socket (you think I am kidding BUT I AM NOT:

<sometoolname>
<status>1</status>
</sometoolname>

Jesus fucking Christ. I always ask them why they DO THAT, and the answer boils down to some dumbfuckery like "easy to detect errors", "understandable by machines and humans", etc. Then they show me, with pride, this fifty fucking line program that opens a socket, waits for input, and BUILDS A FUCKING DOM TREE TO GET THE 1 OUT.

Then I show them my program that I wrote in C that does the same thing three times as fast, with no unneeded dependencies (minus standard net libraries), and all I pass is ONE FUCKING BYTE ACROSS THE NETWORKS. PROTIP: Mine is much easier to parse, thank you.

I blame "Computer and Information Science" curriculum, which trains these idiots in all the latest rage (XML, whatever language Microsoft decided to add to .NET, etc) and puts them out in the world... they don't have a fucking clue what's really going on.

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