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IT'S OFFICIAL: C++ SUCKS

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-06 14:53 ID:7MxJazpp

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-06 14:56 ID:vGY7Qyi+

From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds <at> linux-foundation.org>
Linus Torvalds <torvalds <at>
Linus Torvalds

I'm not sure what to believe now... :(

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-06 14:59 ID:Heaven

>>2
If you've up until now thought that C++ is a decent language, it's really time to pull your head out of your ass.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-06 15:13 ID:jU+F+3ed

I'M LINUS TORVALDS
SON OF A BITCH C++
OBJECT-ORIENTED IS PIG
DO YOU WANT STL?
DO YOU WANT BOOST?
C++ IS PIG DISGUSTING
C++ PROGRAMMER IS A MURDERER
FUCKING MONOTONE

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-06 15:15 ID:Z/5brYu3

lol, linux turdballs talks like an internet tough guy

what a fag

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-06 15:16 ID:Heaven

>>5
lol, anonymous talks like an internet tough guy

what a fag

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-06 15:20 ID:L5xTkBYS

From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds <at> linux-foundation.org>

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Linus Torvalds

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-06 15:24 ID:Heaven

>>1
AHAHAHAHA!!! Hilarious post and thread.

Of course C++ sucks, I can't believe many fags think it's great.

git could have been implemented in Common Lisp too. But definitely not C++.

>>2
In case of doubt, refer to the fact the Sussman and the Abelson were never too excited at OO because they understood what it was about, unlike the faggots who fap to their OO bullshit without even having a clue, OO or whatnot.

>>4
Nice tl;dr version

>>5
What an fag

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-06 15:32 ID:Heaven

>>1
I'm quite surprised that someone like Linus would be trolled so easily. Rofl, what a nerd.

Name: LINIX TORVALEDES 2007-09-06 15:46 ID:Heaven

HAY GUYZ I AM LUNIX FAILVALDS

100 YEARS AGO I WROTE SOME SHITTY CODE THAT WITH THE HELP OF HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE EVENTUALLY EVOLVED INTO SOMETHING THAT IS NOW WIDELY USED. AS A CONSEQUENCE, I NEVER HAVE TO PROVIDE ACTUAL ARGUMENTS IN A DISCUSSION, EVER. I CAN JUST SAY FUCK AND BULLSHIT ON THE INTERNET AND PEOPLE LIKE >>2 WHO LACK A REAL UNDERSTANDING OF THE SUBJECT AT HAND WILL SWALLOW ALL OF IT BECAUSE I AM LINUX MOTHERFUCKING TORFAIL AND I AM ALWAYS RIGHT.

FUCK SHIT UTTER CRAP

XOXOXO
LUNOX

Name: Linux Tarballs 2007-09-06 17:42 ID:L5xTkBYS

Hello, my name is Linux Tarballs and I say C++ is bullshit.

And the best of all is that I am right.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-06 23:45 ID:5qmeB5Hb

>>8
git could have been implemented in Common Lisp
just die

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-07 4:22 ID:s3BeViRg

Why not writing GIT on Python? That'd have made the most sense, being a very productive, high-level, versatile language where you can do a bit of FP, a bit of OO, and a bit of good old traditional programming as you need it. It's also easy to learn and it has an awesome library and community.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-07 4:36 ID:JOdPEfOG

>>13
That would have made too much sense for a dumb fucktard like Torvalds. Seriously, after reading his messages, I am now scared of using anything he has any say over.. I may have to switch from Linux to BSD.. hell, even Vista may be better!

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-07 4:37 ID:mnLgVnNd

>>13
Python is not scalable.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-07 5:38 ID:3RJMWuRB

>>14
SUCK A GOAT DICK BSD FAG

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-07 5:52 ID:Heaven

>>14
``a dumb fucktard like Torvalds''
and who may you be?

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-07 7:05 ID:s3BeViRg

>>15
Python is as scalable or non-scalable as C, with the difference that being higher level, it's easier to use the network, serialize objects, hot update functions and modules, and create more ambitious abstractions, and there's a good library that will help one way or another.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-07 7:15 ID:mnLgVnNd

>>18
Python is not Enterprise-ready.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-07 8:03 ID:s3BeViRg

>>19
Thanks for sharing my view that Python is fairly good.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-07 8:21 ID:JOdPEfOG

>>13-15,18-20
One word: Forced Indention of Code. Thread Over.

>>17
The suave space toad. I have read SICP and am closer to Satori than your penis is of being nonexistent.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-07 8:25 ID:chwwYiCp

This is quite hilarious.

Linus does come across as quite a tool.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-07 9:05 ID:s3BeViRg

Okay, so Linus might be easy to troll due to not having browsed 4chan, but he still makes good points and, in the case of C++, he's absolutely right.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-07 10:56 ID:mnLgVnNd

>>23
You are saying 4channers can't be trolled?  Think again.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-07 10:59 ID:Heaven

Exhibit A: A successful 4chan troll
>>23
>>24

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-07 11:47 ID:KO3ims++

>>23
but he still makes good points
Where? I just see him calling people faggots and making random shit up.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-07 11:52 ID:vwjtBZ7h

>>13
Version control systems have been written in Python. They're slow. Reeeally slow.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-07 12:00 ID:Heaven

>>27
Then Ruby would probably be a better choice.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-07 12:00 ID:chwwYiCp

All Linus knows is C. It's a shame that he is so blinkered as to any alternatives.

It reminds me of Steve Gibson of grc.com, and his rabid insistence on coding everything in assembly language. http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Agrc.com+assembly

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-07 12:16 ID:Heaven

>>29
All Linus knows is C.
Let me remind you the only thing you need to know to code ANY kind of application is C
It reminds me of Steve Gibson

"ChromaZone is pretty much the last word in "display hardware palette animation", so it will require you to temporarily drop your system down into 256-color mode ... but if you will give it a whirl I know you'll be quite amazed. I am not trying to sell you a copy of ChromaZone. Really, I'm not. It's just a piece of work that I'm so very proud of, that I'd really like to share the demo with you if you'll take a moment to check it out. It runs on any Windows platform (Win3/95/98), except NT, since it depends upon the virtual timer vxd (VTD) that's not present in NT."
Not portable? Incompability? aah.. assembly.
enjoy your 13.824 bytes Gibson while i can write the same thing in C and have it in maybe 20k bytes and faster that runs on any platform available.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-07 12:26 ID:7pclO8Di

>>30
Let me remind you the only thing you need to know to code ANY kind of application is C
Let me remind you the only thing you need to empty an oil tanker is a tea spoon.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-07 12:32 ID:Heaven

>>31
YEAH LET ME REMIND YOU THAT YOU'RE LUCKY IF YOU FIND A TOPIC THAT HASN'T BEEN IMPLEMENTED IN C
anyway, we where talking about `knowledge' and not `time'

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-07 12:34 ID:DyJGZe8U

so wait, the consensus of /prog/ is that Linux sucks and that C++ sucks, but C is awesome but not really useful to use?

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-07 12:35 ID:DyJGZe8U

>>33
:s/Linux/Linus/g

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-07 12:36 ID:Heaven

>>33
Read SICP and all your questions will be answered.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-07 12:39 ID:Heaven

The consensus of /prog/ is that [Python|Haskell|Lisp|C|C++|Java|Brainfuck] [sucks|rocks|is good enough|rots your brain|is great lulz]. BBCode is the best solution for most of our daily tasks, though.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-07 13:28 ID:7Rws5u7W

>>13
>>18
Oh wow lol. Guido's little toy language. "Traditional programming." "Hot updates of functions."

Perhaps once you people grow the fuck up, you'll realize that REDEFINING FUNCTIONS ON THE FLY is NOT A GOOD WAY TO MAKE YOUR SHIT READABLE. Also, hot-updating a function for "speed" in Python, the language with the shittiest runtime since shitty runtimes were invented? Wow.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-07 13:37 ID:XclPm652

>>37

Out of curiosity, what do you use?

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-07 13:50 ID:7Rws5u7W

Also, get a load of this Walter Bright guy. "The easiest way to show the error is consider the code being ported to a
typical 64 bit C compiler. int's are still 32 bits, yet the array can be larger than 32 bits." Yes yes, and I would certainly iterate over an array's indices with a simple for loop even if said array would become larger than can be indexed with 32-bit signed integers. NOT! Fucking hell. 31 bits' worth of indexes in an array of the smallest C datatype, "char", would be two fucking gigabytes of continuous memory! Whomever has reason to iterate over that much data either needs himself a computation cluster, a brain, or a life.

>>38
C and Haskell. The first is the traditional tool from a more civilized era (lulz) and the second provides the completely wonderful experience of programming without having to think about execution order or when one can replace a value in a variable. That last bit is important, because mutable variables are just as much manual memory management as malloc and free.

Also, Haskell got me into formal specification. Take a look at the Z notation for shits and giggles and getting your mind pried open like a pretzel.

Ok, I'll admit to using a spot of Perl in text-processing and database access things. And shellscript for automating rsync and backup tasks. I've never had a hankering to do anything in Python however.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-07 13:55 ID:7pclO8Di

>>39
Take a look at the Z notation for shits and giggles and getting your mind pried open like a pretzel.
URL or name of a good introductory text or GTFO.

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