Oh, wow, could you OS fags please gb2/comp/? We have enough religious wars here even without your bullshit. And you >>19 faggot should be shot for starting this.
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Anonymous2007-08-02 4:10 ID:P815O/kk
Old/All of the above/Erlang t(^_^t)
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Anonymous2007-08-02 4:48 ID:jjwNNF3w
22/UNIX/Haskell, but I can read-write essentially any language
There are hundreds of useful applications that have no Linux counterpart.
Decent music composition and production software is only available for Windows and Mac OS. The cream of the crop of disassemblers - IDA Pro - only has a GUI version for Windows. Practically all Microsoft applications are only available for Windows and sometimes Mac OS, and while many have been cloned for Linux, there is no good copy of Outlook, and no IDE matches the power of Visual Studio. And games, of course, both old and new.
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I don't do music composition and production, so I don't know what's available for Linux there, but for the others you mentioned:
gdb > IDA Pro
KMail + KAddressBook + KOrganizer > Outlook
KDevelop > Visual Studio
IDA Pro, Outlook, and Visual Studio really are shit.
Wine works well enough for most games I've wanted to play recently.
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Anonymous2007-08-02 5:49 ID:7aiNQQw1
gdb > IDA Pro ??
Ok, now I know you're trolling. Have you even used IDA?
>>48 I don't do music composition and production, so I don't know what's available for Linux there
Ardour is great, but currently only supports digital audio (no MIDI). Also, most decent audio interfaces are unsupported in Linux (and no, M-Audio ``pro'' gear doesn't count as decent.)
Also various scripting languages but I've never really settled with any particular one. I prefer Ruby over Python. I recently re-discovered Javascript, which is really neat.
Debian because somewhere along the line I became really attached to APT.
Began to dabble in Common Lisp a month or two ago, and I'm very intrigued. Haskell is next on my hit list for whenever I get bored of CL.
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Anonymous2007-08-02 14:51 ID:3NfriDKH
23/OS X/Haskell, Python, Lisp, C
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Anonymous2007-08-02 14:55 ID:mvIT/GyX
31/Ubuntu/Python (Yes, I suck, but all I need is python and a smattering of Perl and php to get by)
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Anonymous2007-08-02 15:16 ID:24CnOqTB
>>49
no, i haven't, but disassembler with GUI = automatic fail
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Anonymous2007-08-02 16:08 ID:dRyT98T8
>>56
Try it - despite your console-fag attitude, I think you'll be surprised. It's incredibly powerful.
>>62
You can put in a executable image for which you have no source, and it figures out all the library calls, determines where the functions are, works out the interesting strings and structs and cross-references it all. Then you can go in and explore the program as if following hyperlinks, and annotate/rename parts of it to get a better understanding. Or use scripting to do the same. And it does this with executables from many different architectures and platforms.
If you're serious about reverse-engineering, IDA Pro will be your main tool.
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Anonymous2007-08-02 17:34 ID:dRyT98T8
>>64
Oh and it also has a debugger on Windows / Mac / Linux built in so you can take your annotated disassembly and run it, while continuing to edit it inside the debugger.
Fair enough if you prefer GDB, but GDB won't do that shit for you.
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Anonymous2007-08-02 19:05 ID:gvxonK4M
Linux is only free if your time is worthless.
I'm looking at you, 14-year-old "31337 pengUin hackers".
I'm on Windows. I never have to recompile my kernel (or everything else, in the case of Gentoo). I install my drivers in a couple clicks (PS: even IF Linux were faster, it would have worse performance because the drivers suck. Linux on servers is a different thing.). ANY software that I want is available to me without having to dick around with WINE. I don't have a computer so I can waste time tinkering it, I have it so I watch porn like everybody else.
ANY software that I want is available to me without having to dick around with WINE
That's like saying that the only real software is windows software.
way to think mate ;)
It's true. Examples: no good FTP software for Linux. No good productivity suite (although OO is a nice try). Also, nothing works unless you want to spend hours on it.
no good FTP software for linux
what? You don't like ftp/sftp?
You could alternatively use gFTP or ftpcube.
Please mention your definition of ``good'' next time.
Also, nothing works unless you want to spend hours on it.
Let me translate this for the others Also, nothing works because i've never ever read a man page or a README file
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Anonymous2007-08-02 21:24 ID:gxqXPbTp
I think that's exactly what gvxonK4M wanted to convey: he prefers an easy to use operating system on which no manuals need to be read.
>>76
So he prefers a system designed for babies who don't even know how not to crap their pants?
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Anonymous2007-08-02 22:48 ID:gxqXPbTp
>>77
that pretty much sums it up.
I kinda agree though, it's better to let the system do by itself what the system should do by itself. Then again you can get Knoppix working in two minutes, so it's probably an unfair accusation at linux.