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how do i learn win32 for c++?

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-02 16:18 ID:XRcdnMaL

i want to plot a graph from scratch and setpixel sucks dick. any good books to look at? msdn encylopedia is way too large.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-06 15:09 ID:qOw6q6Id

Learn QT, win32 is made of fail and lose.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-06 15:14 ID:PX4jl9bJ

>>41
I know, but QT has commercial limitations.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-06 15:27 ID:PX4jl9bJ

Also, DevC++ has advanced little in the past 5 years: though it can help with the API, it has no MFC support. There is WxWidgets and a DevC++WxWidgets port, but I forget why I stopped using it.

Again, if you have VC++ (ugh,) go grab an old book. Avoid dot net since you won't learn Win32 the right way. I think the 2002+ compilers are removing legacy Win32 support. The free VC learnig edition or whatever is a damn DOS builder --MS decided that to code even a basic window, after literally half an hour worth of setup changes, they would discourage us via a required manual edit cycle. And still no MFC there. Windows itself is the reason why our code is not windows friendly and still uses DOS boxes, 7 years after the underlying DOS layer was removed and emulated on demand by the OS.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-06 16:17 ID:yBSSkgic

Avoid dot net since you won't learn Win32 the right way. I think the 2002+ compilers are removing legacy Win32 support.
If the compilers are removing support... uh... just a guess: maybe you shouldn't bother learning it? You only have so many hours in a day.

Do you advocate learning 16-bit x86 assembly too?

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-06 16:22 ID:hTmo0sDW

>>42
Lol, Win32 is freer to use than QT.

>>43
Who wants MFC anyways? Win32 fails hard; MFC is blOOatware and fails even harder.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-06 16:59 ID:PX4jl9bJ

>>44
Er, here's the problem: Microsoft doesn't know where it's going to be in 3 years. They want to force businesses into Vista and dot NET. You can go ahead and learn dot NET now, but millions of users and businesses that don't include the latest runtimes, and users of illegal Windows who never run Windows Updates, are out in the cold.

If you work in IT you'd know that every time Java and .NET APIs change, you WOULD have to go to every machine in your business and install the new runtime, because MS and SUN Microsystems sure don't automate this for you. And WOULD means that they don't, and just sit it out with their old versions, and wait till the programmers wisen up or the entire business gets a hardware/OS upgrade.

So yes, MFC is bloat, but it's 300% faster than the bare C++-on-Win32 learning curve. I hate its guts, and that's why it's going to be a long year while I learn Win32 the long way as well.

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