I know it has good points as well but thats not for this thread. thanks.
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Anonymous2007-02-07 15:37
>>79 is a prime example of why so many people hate the python community. I too dislike the community, although I think the language is decent.
It's a language, you damned zealot. Get a life and cool down.
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Anonymous2007-02-07 15:40
>>80 >>81
You're both right, languages are tools. If they don't provide you with an efficient solution, change and try something else, Ruby for example.
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Anonymous2007-02-07 15:43
>>80
let me guess, you're some low rank code monkey working for peanuts, know the whopping amount of about two or three languages, one of which is BASIC or somesuch
Also, lack of unicode, and the regex are half-baked.
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Anonymous2007-02-07 16:02
>>85
I don't see myself telling you to stop posting your pretentious, insular crap in every other thread, so what gives you the right to order me around?
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Anonymous2007-02-07 16:04
>>79 >>80
A bit less name calling please, lets concentrate on tearing python to bits :)
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Anonymous2007-02-07 16:07
>>87
shut up please, you're unwelcomed here, this is not the "I'm new to computars help me programmating pliz"
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Anonymous2007-02-07 16:10
>>88
what is the net amount of meaningful criticisms during this thread so far? zero? a link about shortcomings most of which have been fixed 3 versions ago? some quibbling about dubious features like do while, and the stupid old indentation shtick?
>>96
so n00bs can go on with their crusade against python?
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Anonymous2007-02-07 17:17
>>33
and C++ with Boost and the STL outperforms Python with more features and more stuff to play with, what was your point again?
>>37
yes, but my C++ program won't break if I put too much spaces before or after a line or a statement, the flow of my applications can't be broken because I want to cut and paste functions when I refactor...
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Anonymous2007-02-07 17:28
>>98
yeah, because c++ is literally flawless and modern IDEs are so primitive they don't take care of tabs for you.
you know what you can do with your c++ supremacy? I'll let you guess
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Anonymous2007-02-07 17:39
100GET in a long fucking thread?
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Anonymous2007-02-07 17:42
101DALMATIONS
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Anonymous2007-02-07 17:42
>>100
yay, more tedious trolling for all, and I mean both pro and anti python
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Anonymous2007-02-07 17:44
>>98
you must be a genius! a lower level language outperforms a higher level language? words fail me.
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Anonymous2007-02-07 17:45
This thread is teh awesome. If anyone EVER tries to start another Python thread, we can just go:
kinda geeky, but iirc english isn't his first language as he's dutch, and the stuff that's written to the mailinglists is very assuring that a lot of tremendously intelligent people have been working and still are to make python a good language
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Anonymous2007-02-07 18:36
>>80
Ooooh you don't give your very precious code to anyone! You're the man! Truly a master programmer! We should listen to you!
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Anonymous2007-02-07 18:42
and C++ with Boost and the STL outperforms Python with more features and more stuff to play with, what was your point again?
C++ doing that is not only clumsy, incredibly verbose, error-prone and absolutely retarded, but it's also worse than having a monkey dance in your intestine. The fact you can hack it to do something that barely resembles what a high-level language should do doesn't make C++ a high-level language.
P.S.: Python has dynamic typing, closures, list comprehensions, generators, eval, etc., and since Python is written in C, C does all that! OMG!
yes, but my C++ program won't break if I put too much spaces before or after a line or a statement
After? Nobody cares for after. And if you put too much space before a line where it shouldn't go, then it should very well fail, because you suck at indenting.
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Anonymous2007-02-07 18:47
>>106
+1 Interesting
Okay, so you may agree or disagree with GvR. You may think he's an indentation fag, or he has become an hero because he forces morons to indent properly. You may think his disdain for functional programming is stupid. You may think he's too Pythonic for his own good, or he's too Pythonic and that's his own good. So you may like or dislike or love or hate his work. But regardless of that, you have to admit he rocks.
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Anonymous2007-02-07 20:09
Is there some way to do "if defined x" in Python that doesn't involve exceptions?
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Anonymous2007-02-08 0:28
One word, the forced indentation of code. Thread over.
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Anonymous2007-02-08 2:26
>>110
there isn't a better way for a reason: if your code requires so, it's not very good. anyway, you can do if 'name' in dir() or in locals() or globals().
>>111
Same troll as in the first posts, and WHBT constantly.
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Anonymous2007-02-08 22:59
there isn't a better way for a reason: if your code requires so, it's not very good.
I realise that, but it's pretty darn hard to avoid it altogether when dealing with Zope3. Components are no fun. :(
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Anonymous2007-02-09 1:32
One word, the forced indentation of code. Thread over.