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Bad things about python

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-02 12:05

ITT we list all the bad things about python.

I know it has good points as well but thats not for this thread. thanks.

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-09 6:44

>>120
one of my eyes just popped out

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-09 8:18

One Thread, the indentation forced of. code over word.

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-10 13:25

bump etic thread

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-10 13:40

One word, the forced indentation of code. Thread over.

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-10 14:52

>>123
bump erotic thread

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-10 17:17

>>106
I just watched the whole vid and near the end in the questions section, Guido says there'll probably be syntax so that you can assign to a variable in an outer scope. At this point, I instantly came all over my keyboard, mouse, table, and chair. It's as if I had been wanking for a year holding up all this time, then suddenly released a load of George Zimmer proportions.

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-10 17:24

>>126
rofl, what a nerd

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-10 17:31

>>127
hello, I'll be proving how you fail, using this categorical syllogism:
* > null
you == null
nerd > you

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-10 17:34

>>126
assign variable to outer scope? what a bunch of crap, just rename your stupid variables if their names clash, of course if you only use "a, b, c, d" you'll have a problem, shesh...

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-10 18:32

>>126
>>128

same person

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-10 19:11

>>127
>>130

same person

don't lump me in with >>126 because you fail

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-10 20:14

>>129
Uh... you kinda fail at realizing what this allows you to. I'm talking about closures. It's not that names clash, it's that I want to use outer scopes variables, and right now in Python you cannot assign them to new values because that would create a new inner variable.

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-10 23:05

>>126
>>127
>>130
>>131
forced indentation of code.

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-11 4:27

>>132
you want to use outer scopes variables from a closure? Lisp already did that 20 years ago.

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-11 6:07

One word, the forced indentation of code. Thread over. Thread over. Thread over. Thread over. Thread over. Thread over. Thread over. Thread over. Thread over. Thread over. Thread over.

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-11 6:16

>>134
lisp has shitty syntax.
but then again, so does python.

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-11 7:38

>>136
sez who?

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-11 8:06

>>137
One word, the forced indentation of code. Thread over.

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-11 9:49

this thread is immortal like duncan mcleod. fuck the haters, python rules!

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-11 10:40

>>139
One word, the forced indentation of code. Thread over.

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-12 11:50

>>136
lisp doesn HAEV syntax

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-12 14:16

>>139
no, Lisp rules, Python is already dead...

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-12 14:19

>>142
seconded!

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-12 16:29

>>142
>>143
Absolutely in no way thirded. Please try to improve your definition of "dead", lest thou wishes to confuse thy peers.

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-12 16:46

>>144
don't make me laugh, you're not one of my "peers", you could be my slave in another dimension but all you are able to do is click "Next > Next > Next" on template wizards for C++ projects, you're nothing.

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-12 16:47

>>144
One word, the forced indentation of code. Thread over.

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-13 3:55

>>134
Python is not that old, but it already does that. You can read outer scope objects and modify mutable ones. The problem is if you assign their symbols like i = 1 (not just modify them like i.mutablemethod() or i[index] = stuff), it will create a new symbol in the local scope, because symbol creation is automatic, and this was a tradeoff between this and what JavaScript and Perl do (automatic globals - pure shit). Currently, if you really need to assign to a symbol like that, you can, but you have to wrap it into a list. This will introduce a way to assign to a symbol in an outer scope.

>>136
Lisp has shitty syntax, Python's syntax is fine except for a few things. However, I think Lisp has superior features. The reason why I do Python is that I think the better syntax is worth the loss of features given what's left of Lisp is still good and flexible enough.

>>141
Oh yes it does.

>>142
False

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-14 15:25

>>147
sounds like an utterly terrible bad decision

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-14 15:56

>>147
shitty syntax for you, best for me, you're a noob, I use Lisp.

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-14 16:31

>>148
I'll take it over automatic globals. Forget to use var or my and poof, welcome to outermost scope.

>>149
((not (can (be 'serious))) you)

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-14 16:31

>>149
lisp isnt the best, but thats only because you cannot put languages on a linear scale.
if you could then yeah.

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-14 16:54

>>150
Lisp syntax is so easy and natural that anybody can see that your fake Lisp program is not valid, that's why I love Lisp.

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-14 16:55

>>151
thanks for the computar lesson, I write C++, Lisp and Lua on a daily basis for my job and I needed you to remind me that functional languages are different...

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-15 7:29

>>153
um "shitty syntax for you, best for me, you're a noob, I use Lisp."
you said it was the best... I was practically agreeing with you.

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-16 8:57

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-16 9:10

>>155
lol what?
I dont get the reference to perl

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-16 9:50

>>156
you've obviously never used perl.

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-16 12:15

>>157
god what is it with you /prog/ers,
yes. I have used perl.

can you tell me the reference now please?
(unless you dont get it either which would explain your random false statements)

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-16 12:26

>>158
Perl fucking sucks.  So does Lisp, that's the reference.

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-16 12:32 (sage)

>>158
perl is generally perceived as an easy language to quickly hack shit up in, with the results being barely readable.

kill yourself.

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