I need a serial for MS Visual C++ Express 2005 http://gcc.gnu.org/ is a valid serial number. Yet.
That's OK, I just told them and they'll take care of it.
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Anonymous2007-01-28 8:47
Anyone?
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Anonymous2007-01-28 9:30
Do you need MSVC++? I did all my C programming in college on Eclipse with CDT. But then agian I'm a linux fag so it was a natural progression from gvim+console.
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Anonymous2007-01-28 11:52
i thought express was free.
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Anonymous2007-01-28 12:59
Fail for visual C++
Get cygwin and use vi/make/gcc like a real man.
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Anonymous2007-01-28 15:26
MinGW+MSYS ftw
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Anonymous2007-01-28 20:10
slow programming ftw
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Anonymous2007-01-28 20:22
Seriously though, how many in the "fuck IDE's" crowd actually work on large scale projects? Why go through all of the extra work when everything can be provided with ease in one environment?
I think its more of a Microsoft thing than a hatred of IDEs. I dont think anyone really hates Borland or Eclipse for C++, other than the Microsofties, of course.
But iD uses Visual Studio ... so it can't be all that bad, right?
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Anonymous2007-01-28 22:14
The new VC++ is bloated. WTF with the inernal web browser?
Yeah I will definitely agree with that, but it's Microsoft so you kind of have to expect that (see? that's true hatred there, not just "lol micro$hit product"). 2005 does have some improved Intellisense though. Last time I checked it was able to find the majority of SDL's API unlike 2003 where it didn't even recognize it.
VC++ 2003 will be the last Visual Studio release that I use with c++. I'm sure the newer releases are great for the .net languages.
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Anonymous2007-01-29 12:19
>>12
Just Microsoft wanting to shove Internet Explorer up your ass until you vomit it on your lap together with your bowels.
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Anonymous2009-01-14 13:10
SICP
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Anonymous2009-02-25 8:21
The reasons Lisp is my body and SICP is my EXPERT PROGRAMMERS THREAD NOT IM A bit stumped on how to perform the actual interpolation I have D3DXMATRIXA16.
>>11 I dont think anyone really hates Borland or Eclipse for C++, other than the Microsofties
I hate Microsoft products, and I hate that bloated piece of Eclipse equally so.
Why would Micro$oft be pushing IE so hard? It's not like they make any money off of it.
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Anonymous2009-02-26 1:03
>>18
It's yet another lockin to Microsoft's technologies. Note how IE development stagnated after the fall of Netscape. Also note that IE development continued when Firefox started to become a viable alternative out of Microsoft's lockin.
>>10
File manager in one window, vi or whatever editor in another. And maybe a third one for compiling. There's your "IDE" without any of the bloated shit.
>>23
the exclamation points on the end meant i was joking
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Anonymous2009-02-26 14:08
>>25
Oh, I thought you were attempting to fetch an unspecified index of integrated.
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Anonymous2009-02-26 14:11
>>24
Emacs is to IDEs as IDEs are to Vim. Far beyond.
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Anonymous2009-02-26 20:48
>>27 Emacs is to IDEs as IDEs are to Vim. Far beyond.
QFT. IDEs at least give you basic features like syntax highlighting, auto indentation, and editing multiple files at the same time. And Emacs clobbers all of the above by actually letting you edit text. That's without getting into the way it lets you customize its behavior at run time, without even having to quit the editor like you do with Vi.
At first I used quincy2005 because I wanted a free IDE that would let me start programming ASAP. After coming to the painful realization that quincy2005 was a piece of shit, I downloaded and installed a pirated version of MSVC 2008, and used it up until a certain number of days ago, then I got fed up with some part or behaviour of it that was really annoying and installed DevC++. DevC++ has been pretty decent to me for the most part (but it's a BETA, and it CRASHES).