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Name: Anonymous 2007-01-08 9:08

Heya. I'm in the process of releasing an app I wrote to the public, and I'm looking for a good license to put on it. I don't wish to reserve any rights whatsoever, and I don't really care if people want to claim it as their own.

What I DO want is to ensure that no one can get in to any form of legal trouble by copying and using my program. I'd also prefer if no one was able to get ME into any legal trouble either.

Do I distribute it without any license and hope anonymity solves my problems, or do I GPL it?
I just took a quick look on GPL, and I believe it's too restrictive...

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-08 9:10

BSD Licence.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-08 9:14

Do I distribute it without any license and hope anonymity solves my problems

Yes

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-08 9:29

>>3

BSD beats just dropping it in the public domain by a long way.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-08 9:55

>>4

Why?

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-08 10:27

>>5
Read about Liscense Approval too.  Don't just sign up for something. This will most likely answer your questions.
http://www.opensource.org/docs/certification_mark.php#approval

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-08 18:28 (sage)

Just explicitly release it into the public domain.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-08 20:47

you don't need to use an 'official' license.  just make a text file explaining what you want to let people do with your code, and what you don't want to let people do with your code, and call it LICENSE.TXT

if you don't wish to reserve any rights whatsoever, that's what Public Domain is for.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-09 2:05

public domain > MIT > BSD > *

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-09 7:21

>>11

"This is released into the public domain. No warranty is given - if it breaks you get to keep both pieces."

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-09 12:16

public domain > MIT > BSD > *
I must disagree with public domain. As stupid as this sounds, you can be liable for public domain code, at least in the US. It's one of the reasons all the licenses include liability disclaimers.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-09 14:45

>>13
US is really a stupid country if you can be liable for public domain code, most european countries wouldn't tolerate that. And BSD > MIT BTW, HTH.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-09 16:08

>>12
I like it :)


On a side note, where the fuck did >>11 go?

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-09 16:09

nm, figured it out. Someone had deleted most of my posts :)

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-09 19:27

>>1
Public domain: Simplest and least restrictive license. You allow people to do anything.
BSD: Honourable version of public domain where you retain credits.
GPL: Viral, more restrictive free open source license that forces stuff derived from your work to be GPL too, and prevents others from profiting from your work. I like BSD better because it's less restrictive. However, the new beta GPLv3 has clauses against digital AIDS (digital restrictions management/DRM, treacherous computing/TC) and abusive software patents (American shit), so I like it the best.

So I recommend GPLv3 draft 2 or something like that.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-09 19:30

>>13 doesn't know what public domain means.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-09 20:26

>>14,18
Liability is distinct from copyright -- if you write a chunk of code and claim (or reasonably imply) that it won't damage anything, you'd still be liable for any damage whether that code is public domain or not.  If someone else takes this public domain code and claims (or reasonably implies) that it won't damage anything, then /they'd/ be liable (unless they could reasonably shift the blame back to you for misleading them).

Since people are stupid, it's generally safer to explicitly state that the software is provided as-is, and there are no guarantees as to safety or suitability when you release something, whether public domain or not.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-10 1:16

Since people are stupid, it's generally safer to explicitly state...

This is a bad fix to the problem. The good solution would be to leave your stupid country where stupid people can sue you because you claimed in your code that it would solve world hunger and hemoroids.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-10 5:57

Yes, it depends on country. In US you can get sued if your code breaks ( if you don't state that it can happen, or something like that ) ! Also in US you can _not_ place your work in public domain ( ya rly ) !

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-10 17:10

>>21
Also in US you can _not_ place your work in public domain ( ya rly ) !
Holy retarded country, Batman! How can that be so? What if you come here to /prog and throw some code with a message "Here's my shit, do whatever you want with it you faggots lol"?

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-10 17:21

>>22
Isn't it obvious he's making crap up?  In the country that started the creative commons license, I doubt putting stuff in public domain is a problem.  All you need is a little readme text that says "This "blank" is released as public domain as is.  No warranties expressed or implied".  Not to mention stuff from the government is released as public domain all the time because it was paid for by tax dollars.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-10 18:00

I like public domain because I don't have to include a license blurb in legalese. also, I'm in the eu so no us faggotry mentioned in this thread would apply. bsd-style or mit/expat permissive licenses are great too. gpl usually just shows people have little clue and have been feeding on too much of rms' propaganda.

Name: IANAL 2007-01-11 4:27

>>23
No, it isn't obvious.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Domain#United_States_law
After 1988, an author's copyright in a work begins when it is fixed in a tangible form; neither publication nor registration is required, and a lack of a copyright notice does not place the work into the public domain.

I remember a discussion in some mailing list about this topic, the conclusion was that you can't place a work in the public domain, because it would allow anyone to publish anything without any consequences. No one is responsible for a public domain work. Government is something entirely different.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-11 4:36

>>24
Agree, BSD/MIT are nice. But GPL is useful too, I would definitely consider it for serious projects. Are you OK with your life long work being used in evil corporations patented closed source application ?

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-11 4:48

>>26

Haha, life long work

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-11 5:28

it would allow anyone to publish anything without any consequences. No one is responsible for a public domain work

Uh, 'free speech'?

Name: IANAL 2007-01-11 5:50

>>28
Well, you are responsible for what you say. If you could put work in public domain then you wouldn't be. Agree ? So if you write that you are going to kill the president, then you are responsible for that, but if you put that note in public domain then you aren't.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-11 8:16

>>29
I, Anal?

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-11 8:53

Ian, Al

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-11 9:05

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-11 9:07

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Name: Anonymous 2007-01-12 7:25

>>17
"and prevents others from profiting from your work"

It doesn't. It prevents them from changing your work without releasing the source. So if e.g. you write something and trhey improve it and sell it, they need to release the source to anyone they've sold it to. They also can't prevent the people they sold it to from giving it away or selling it themselves.

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