I tried growing a beard

...but I ended up taking my pants off too much.

Why do people use C when there's C++ anyway? C is so... unorganised.

>>76
>low-level sockets
Well THERE'S your problem!

I recognize three exceptions, all three of which may not be caught by a compiler (...) Integer Division (blah blah blah)

The stupid and moronic examples you gave just show that you do not understand what an exception is.

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>>83
gb2/thirdworldcountry/

real high level programming means working with more powerful abstractions. If you really think abstractions aren't useful, sure, maybe you better stick with c.

>>82

So, what is an exception? Enlighten us.

>>86

NO EXCEPTIONS!

"Why do people use C when there's C++ anyway? C is so... unorganised."

Lol...it's exactly the opposite.  C is simple and clean, there's one way to accomplish any task and few exceptions to the rules.  A complete and exhaustive description of C fits in the ~100 page kernighan and richie book.

C++ tacks a couple of things onto C that makes it a much a less elegant language IMO.

The bottom line is if you want to do procedural programming use C and if you want to do object oriented programming use java.

Java is a pure OO language and this adds a lot in terms of clarity and consistency of syntax.

That said, both C and C++ are saddled with a couple of anachronicities(gotchas) having to do with the way pointers are handled and which data types are first class that makes them seem much trickier than they really are.  Ones you know those the languages are cake.

>>88
Java is a pure OO language
int vs. Integer: the final showdown.

"Why do people use C when there's C++ anyway? C is so... unorganised."

When the features of C++ aren't needed or wanted. Is that so hard to understand?

>>88 Java is a pure OO language and this adds a lot in terms of clarity and consistency of syntax.
You spelled Smalltalk wrong.

>>91
Java is a pure OO language
The why doesn't

int i = null;
work?

null pointer exception

I don't really think that has much to do with OO purity. but yes, java is not really "pure".

See Smalltalk, Eiffel or Python for a ``pure'' OO solution.

>>95
Python? Pure OO? Moar liek pure hackery.

>>96
why? everything in python is an object. so why isn't is oo?

Nothing is enforced, it's as much OO as PERL is. >_>

>>98
true, because python is multiparadigm. still, is way more OO than java.

Indeed, one look no farther than this statement to prove that:

int i = 0;

>>100
100GET

var i:Integer=null;

They're not enclosed in!

Lain.