>>80
You're welcome to share your shit code with your Enterprise Grade Best Practice Scalable Developer coworkers.
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Anonymous2006-10-28 15:34
>>82
This post demonstrates that 'omg enterprize lul' doesn't always result in a good putdown. The reason being that Lisp is possibly the least enterprisey of languages. If >>80 had been talking about Java it would have worked, but instead it just made you look dumb.
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Anonymous2006-10-28 16:11
The module CGI annoys me because I don't want a way to write HTML code with.. functions
startform(), end_form() lol! Not even consistent naming.
I just want a simple way of getting POST and GET variables, and a way to distinguish between these.
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Anonymous2006-10-28 18:27
>>74
I don't know Ruby to tell, but I have heard otherwise, and I can tell for sure Python doesn't shove OO up your ass. In fact, you don't even have to use OO syntax in the standard library either, because "lol".upper() is the same as str.upper("lol").
>>75 no one count lines of code anymore, it's stupid and doesn't mean anything.
I agree that it's stupid to measure things in lines of code, but the order of magnitude of them helps for describing "tiny projects", "small projects", "medium projects", "large projects", "huge projects", etc.
Python is "bad OOP" without all the features of other OOP languages.
Lol it's bad OOP cause it doesn't do what my teacher said it should. Nevermind it has the one of the nicest implementations of OOP ever and beats the crap out of Java's and C++'s any day for a large number of reasons, and in practice, is far superior, simpler, more productive, and truer to the original intent of OOP.
BTW, macros? Not required for FP, and lambda is an anonymous closure.
You don't need statements for pure functional programming, even less now that Python 2.5 got if...else as an expression.
Also, lexical scoping and shadowed variables are retarded. If you've ever mucked with Python's closures, you know what I'm talking about.
It has its advantages too. Mainly feeling natural as you override them. I know it backfires, but there are solutions for it. I wish they had an outer-scope declaration though; something like global but for the first outer scope, not the last one.
>>81
It is, in fact, harder to read (lol noob) as the separation function name and arguments is not as clear. Lisp also fails because you can't use arbitrary parenthesis, you have to use the ones it requires, nothing less and nothing more, and it utterly fails for making it fucking ugly and more difficult to read for things like if and cond, where you separate condition and execute expressions by a mere space, with nothing to tell them apart more clearly, and not a single good way to indent it.
>>80,81
You guys obviously haven't written much in Lisp.
Hey, I love the power Lisp gives, but claiming it's readable is ridiculous. If Lisp is so easy to read, why do all the Lisp editors do coloration of each paren's twin? Ever tried without that?
There aren't many languages that almost require you to use an IDE to write something non-trivial.
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Anonymous2006-10-28 23:12
>>74 I don't know Ruby to tell, but I have heard otherwise,
Here's a plan: learn Ruby. Whoever told you otherwise didn't know what they're talking about. You can code in a procedural style with equal ease in both Python or Ruby.
Other than blocks/closures, Python and Ruby are extremely similar feature- and semantic-wise. If anyone says otherwise, they're clueless. It's just quibbling about syntax and fine-print.
Also, while I hope 2.5 has fixed it, lambda in 2.4 and prior were gutted. If 2.5 allows if/else, at least it's a step in the right direction.
>>83
I was being sarcastic, if >>80 was actually employed, he'd be fired for writing Perl code.
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Anonymous2006-10-29 5:08
>>89 You guys obviously haven't written much in Lisp.
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Anonymous2006-10-29 6:49
>>89
I am going to stop trolling for a few minutes. This only happens like once a week so listen up
You can really have some good times with your computer. You seriously should learn to fix it yourself. Nobody cares about how it runs but you. If you take it to some jackhole and tell him to fix it, it's not going to get done right. Even if you have a father/brother/boyfriend/whatever that you LIVE with who is a Lunix tard and fixes computers for a living, he can't fix it like you can. Even if you're mediocre at best dealing with hardware. Only you use it enough to make a true diagnosis of your computer's health.
Start troubleshooting. Rule everything you can out, then make an educated guess about the source. You know where all the components came from (or have at least a good guess). You know that hard disk failure is probably not the culprit because it's new. Did you install Windows from scratch on it, or did you use some utility to move it from your old disk (like MaxBlast/dd/etc.)? Can you consistantly get your disk to register in the BIOS? Can you make it consistantly fail? If either is true, you found the cause. Try replacing the IDE cable. If that fixes it, you found the cause. Try removing one stick of RAM and see if the problem happens still. If so, take it out and try the other. If still, try one stick in the other DDR channel or another slot. If that still doesn't fix it, you ruled out a RAM error too. Remove all PCI cards but the graphics. Remove all other disk drives. If this doesn't fix it, you've ruled out the possibility of a power drought (not enough power from the power supply causes brownouts that show this kind of behaviour).
Try anything else reasonable you can think of. If all else fails, you have a bad IDE channel on the motherboard. In that case, you need a new motherboard.
>>94
hey are you still around? Could you tell me what compelled you to copy pasta that? (I wrote it). Am I a retard? Are you doing it because it needs to be told to practically everyone who posts a support thread here?
I'd like to hear from you with questions/comments/feedback!
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Anonymous2006-10-29 14:53
>>95
hey are you still around? Could you tell me what compelled you to copy pasta that? (I wrote it). Are you a retard? Are you doing it because it needs to be told to practically everyone who posts a support thread here?
I find your ideas interesting and I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter.
Perl is only fun when obfuscated. The least explicit variables, the funnier.
BTW, it's "Practical Extraction and Reporting Language" : it's not intended for clean code or large programs, it's intended for (coding) efficiency in fast-written, quite small scripts.
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Anonymous2006-11-01 16:41
>>98
Not my deed and best viewed with a monospace font.
>>102
Slashdot lame joke generator (hence the /. is ascii art). It outputs a random joke.
Posted on /. a few years ago.
And I failed to guess how to set monospace, obviously