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Teaching programming h;lp

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-18 11:08

I'm going to teach programming to somebody who's going to study it more formally in a year, but wants to be learning part of it in the mean time.

What SIMPLE, CLEAN, STRUCTURED language would you recommend me to use for teaching? Please, refrain from language wars as this is not a fanboy thread but a serious question. Before yuo mention it, I'm not going to start with either Python or Ruby because they're too complex and get too much in the way, and no, I'm not stupid enough to start with Java because a radical OO language (and a crappy one at that) with a shitty enterprise API is not the best either.

I'm thinking Pascal. As much as it sucks, it has strict/anal types (it's better to start anal than to start easy-going and botch it), simple yet not messy syntax, simple stdin/stdout input and output to play with (that's all I'll need), and none of the complexity of OO. Yet it sounds so useless. But I don't know of other languages that meet these requirements.

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-19 14:55

Null terminated strings still exist BECAUSE IT'S FUCKING IRRELEVANT. YOU TALENT AMPUTATED NON PROGRAMMERS ARE THE ONLY ONES BITCHING ABOUT NON ISSUES LIKE THAT WHILE SMART PEOPLE CARE ABOUT THE STUFF THAT REALLY MATTERS.

IN A SITUATION WHERE THE STANDARD STRING FUNCTIONS REALLY COST SIGNIFICANT PERFORMANCE, THE PROGRAMMER WILL JUST USE SOMETHING ELSE, BECAUSE HE'S USING GOD DAMN C AND NOT SOME SHITTY SCRIPT LANGUAGE WHERE EVERYTHING HAPPENS MAGICALLY AT SOME MAGICAL HIDDEN PLACE INACCESSIBLE FROM YOUR HAPPY UNICORN AND RAINBOWS PROGRAMMING ENVIRONMENT.

NOBODY, I REPEAT NOBODY GIVES THE SLIGHTEST SHIT ABOUT HOW MANY CYCLES IT TAKES TO COPY A COMMAND SOMEBODY JUST ENTERED AT A PROMPT INTO SOME OTHER BUFFER. GET A LIFE YOU HORRIBLE ANIME FAGGOTS.

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