Game Dev

I assume that somewhere in the mess of people, there's people who make games either indie or with a studio. I'd like to become one of you. Where's a good place to start for someone with little to no programming experience?

Don't be a faggot. Until you make a game in javascript and svg or flash don't bother with anything more serious. I'm totally serious. You game dev fags never finish anything and you're all big losers because of it.

Also don't close source your shit. You can't produce what is necessary, you might as well let other people try if they want to.