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C++ good for a noob?

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-05 21:20

Sup guys, I've never programmed. C++ interests me, but would it be good as a first language to learn?

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-05 21:51

WHY DOES C++ INTEREST YOU ? IT IS MADE OF C+1, FAIL AND HAX, IT IS ONLY USEFUL FOR PEOPLE WHO KNOW HOW TO AVOID THE FAIL OF IT AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE HAX OF IT... OTHERS HAVE NO OPTION BUT TO FAIL.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-05 21:59

going into C++ without at least a reasonable understanding of programming concepts is very not recommended unless you like to torture yourself.  you're probably better off starting with something simpler as a first programming language.  python and ruby are rather popular for beginners, and in wide enough use to be valuable.

once you've gotten one of these under your belt, then you can look into C++.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-05 23:58

>>3
Rubbish. I started with x86 assembly, with no prior programming knowledge, then moved onto C++.
DO NOT under any circumstances learn ruby, python, or any of those fake scripting languages. VB is a good start for beginners.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-06 0:27

>>4
I started by coding straight binary, then moved on to writing my programs to the disk by hand with a sharpened refridgerator magnet

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-06 0:29 (sage)

>>5
you had a magnet? i had to will zeroes and ones into existance WITH MY MIND!

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-06 2:24

>>1
First language to learn should be Python. It's easier and focuses on the ideas.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-06 2:36

Python's a bit on the ugly side. Isn't there anything with similar semantics, but with a sane syntax?

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-06 4:31

Just learn plain ansi C then go onto C++
QBasic->C->ASM->EVERYTHING

Also start cracking/reverse engineering programs, educational and fun!

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-06 5:27

>>7
... and focuses on retarded indenting rules, is it rite?
Don't learn Python. I guess Ruby is fine, but not fucking Python. I fucking hate python, and I hate >>7 to.

Name: dark !UN412BdHRI 2006-07-06 5:49

Just learn plain ansi C then go onto C++

QFT.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-06 7:41

Learn nonstandard K&R C ;)

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-06 8:48

There are a number of reasons to learn C++, but as a first language it's an awful choice. A language that is conceptually simple but powerful enough to support enough high level abstractions for you to, you know, actually learn how to program is what you need. Scheme is IMHO ideal (and MIT agrees) but if you'd rather learn something cool and modern or whatever, Ruby or Python are reasonable choices. Stay away from Perl until you know how to program properly otherwise you'll learn bad habits. Oh, Smalltalk is worth a look too. There's a neat implementation of it at www.squeak.org.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-06 18:20 (sage)

>>10

OH NOES, THEY ARE FORCING YOU TO PROPERLY INDENT YOUR CODE, SOMETHING WHICH YOU SHOULD BE DOING ANYWAY! THOSE BASTARDS!

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-07 0:59

>>14
signed

the only thing wrong with using whitespace for programming is when copy pasting code. if your text editor fails to do easy tabs, then maybe you shouldn't be copy pasting.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-07 1:03

>>13
thanks a lot. that is serious fun right there. from now on, i am pointing non-programmers to starting with that rather than c/python/ruby.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-12 2:56

You should learn mindfuck first.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-12 4:10

you mean brainfuck.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-12 16:03

i started with c++ with no priar learning other than lua.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-12 16:03

?

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-13 7:13

>>19
same thing, it fucks minds.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-13 14:59

java is good for a first language because it's documentation is a lot better.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-13 17:00

>>23
is funneh

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-13 17:06

I learn c++ first with no promblems. There are plenty of tutorials out there if you don't understand a concept.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-13 17:09

>>23
WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH LOOOLOLOLOOLOLOL OHUHUOHOHOHOHOH

IT CAN HAVE THE BEST DOCUMENTATION EVER, BUT IT'S THE THE LANGUAGE THE REAL PROBLEM.......

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-13 18:13

>>23
php's documentation is better than java's.
documentation quality == 1/(language quality)?

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-13 19:13

>>27
only works if language quality > 0.
documentation quality == 1-((language quality)-1)^3

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-13 19:33

HOW BOUT WE LEARN SQL FIRST GUYS

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-13 21:50 (sage)

>>27
>>28
WHY ARE YOU USING =='S?!!?!?

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-14 1:07

>>30
because we're stating what documentation quality already is, not assigning a value to it

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-14 10:18

#define c++ easyAsShitMadeOfIron

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-14 13:01

c++ is easy to learn if you're not stupid. if you think your mind can't take that kind of pressure, start with basic, slowly working your way up to c. that's what i did, and look where i am now - on 4chan.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-14 15:53

>that's what i did, and look where i am now - on 4chan.
isnt that like saying, i failed?

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-14 16:02 (sage)

>>31
You are defining the function documentation quality in terms of language quality, it should be
documentation quality(language quality) = ...

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-14 17:17

'=' means 'equals'.
':=' is for assignment.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-14 19:10

>>36 maybe in your language. Not C++.

Name: DoubleAW 2006-07-15 0:05

>>34

Yes. Yes it is.

I learned C++ after already learning HTML, JavaScript, and PHP. Only 'cause I felt like it.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-15 4:54 (sage)

>>36

What the fuck are you, some faggot PASCAL programmer?

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-15 7:34

>>39
(Object) Pascal is superior to C++.

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