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why does java suck?

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-07 7:14

I've noticed in the short time I've been reading this board that there's a lot of java bashing, so I was wondering why people actually think it is so bad. I'm no java fan, but I've used it for some stuff before and it didn't seem terrible to me. An argument used to be that it runs slow as a guro-fied loli, but they've improved a lot in that aspect.

Please give good reasons, rather than stuff like "it's for certified professional consultants" or whatever you guys say.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-14 18:44

>>160
One might even say some things are final.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-14 18:48

>>161
Either that, or the penis operator _|_.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-14 19:13

>>161
Okay, even I'll admit that's one thing about Java that's certainly rotten from one end to the other of the API.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-14 19:15

>>160
Why would they?  Do you expect us to just become morons all of a sudden?

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-14 19:19

>>164
We are on 4Chan.  That alone guarantees we're not the pinnacle of intelligence.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-14 19:35

>>165
actually we are : (

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-14 22:17

I heard the dot operator in the new java has been replaced by 8=================D and variable names can't be less than 50 characters (or the bus will explode)

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-14 22:26

"Our objective goals moving forward to the future of tomorrow is modelling scalable enterprise business solutions for the 21st century marketplace, using business-to-business networking and the world-wide superhighway. We hope to reinvigorate developers with our free floating API cloud-frameworks while also providing sustainable growth for investors today, and tomorrow."

-- Linus Torvalds, inventor of the java.net programmer's toolkit.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-14 22:48

>>168
I HATE CLOUDS

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-14 23:46

Go is a horrible language. It's made more horrible by the fact that a lot of substandard programmers use it, to the point where it's much much easier to generate total and utter crap with it. Quite frankly, even if the choice of Java were to do *nothing* but keep the Go programmers out, that in itself would be a huge reason to use Java.
-- Linus Torvalds

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-15 8:16

>>170
After reading the original rant, I gotta say, Linus would fit right in here at /prog/, especially because he opens it up with:
*YOU* are full of bullshit.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-15 8:48

>>171
That is Linus's way of saying OK NOW YOU FUQIN ANGERED AN EXPERT PROGRAMMER

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-15 9:31

More Linus dick-swinging fun.

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/57961
The very fact that you come in as a newbie, point to some absolutely *trivial* patches, and use that as an argument for a language that the original author doesn't like, is a sign of you being a person who should be disabused on any idiotic notions as soon as possible.
Oh snap!

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-15 9:38

>>171
Oh yes, this reminds me how I was trolling the anusman in the C tips thread.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-15 9:42

>>174
anusman? milkribs?

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-15 9:43

>>172
We should try to get Linus to post here.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-15 9:45

>>175
The very one who was hit with a brick, yes.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-15 9:49

>>176
He probably already does.
Bill Gates and Rimmus do.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-15 10:42

>>175
we should get the anus to post here more often, I find him amusing

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-15 11:01

>>179
He's dead.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-15 11:34

Let's email Linus about this board.  Send him this thread or something.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-15 12:16

>>181
BETTER YET, RMS!

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-15 13:06

>>182
Rumasu

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-15 13:46

Remus

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-15 16:30

>>181
What was the original email that was sent to Gerald Sussman?  The one that started the unscientific and ultimately destructive meme.

We need to do the same for more people.  RMS, Abelson, Linus Torvalds, even [spoiler]Mat Dickie[spoiler].  We'll have a /prog/ celebrity thread.  Bring them all to our wonderful pit of cancer.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-15 17:06

>>185
Sussman didn't love you, so you bring in a pile of B-celebrities to take his place?  Shameful.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-15 19:46

>>185
RMS already posts here

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Name: Anonymous 2011-02-03 4:38

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-03 13:41

>>160
Another 2 and we still do.

Name: Anonymous 2012-02-26 23:59

ENTERPRISE QUALITY

Name: Anonymous 2012-02-27 0:54

here's some new exciting shit in java universe: maven, osgi

check it out, you'll love it

Name: Anonymous 2012-02-27 7:49

>>192
Don't do it

Name: Anonymous 2012-02-27 8:59

FORCED ENTERPRIZATION OF CODE

Name: Anonymous 2012-02-27 10:33

is not perl. therefore it sucks

Name: Anonymous 2012-02-27 10:38

- Forced OOP
- Forced garbage collection
- Virtual Machine and intermediate bytecode; not native, thus is SLOW
- Makes it too easy for retards and skiddies to use; low quality of potential collaborators
- AIDS

Name: Anonymous 2012-02-27 11:27

>>196
- Makes it too easy for retards and skiddies to use; low quality of potential collaborators

All scripting languages have this potential as well.

Name: Anonymous 2012-02-27 11:54

>>197
No fucking shit you nigger, that's why they call them SCRIPT KIDDIES

jesus

Name: Anonymous 2012-02-27 12:04

check 'em
>>200
nice dubs bro

Name: Anonymous 2012-02-27 13:02

>>199
Thanks.

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