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why does java suck?

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-07 7:14

I've noticed in the short time I've been reading this board that there's a lot of java bashing, so I was wondering why people actually think it is so bad. I'm no java fan, but I've used it for some stuff before and it didn't seem terrible to me. An argument used to be that it runs slow as a guro-fied loli, but they've improved a lot in that aspect.

Please give good reasons, rather than stuff like "it's for certified professional consultants" or whatever you guys say.

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-01 17:23

Now that's interesting.

The security model has workarounds? Give me some links; I'd like to see them.

Other languages with virtual machines that integrate into web browsers? I'm always open-minded to new avenues. Tell me about some. I'll go look into them.

Hey, if there is a utility knife for general tasks out there that's a little bit sharper, I won't mind using it.

As things stand however, java is the only language that fits the bill for many of my programming tasks. I'm perfectly willing to use it until I find something else, and I'm not interested in any of that 'c/assembly is faster' or 'python is better structured'. I can't run python on a webpage and even if I could; it wouldn't make a darn bit of sense for me to completely start over on any of my projects unless there is some real benefit to doing so. As such, java makes it easy for me to port objects from program to program, on the web or on any operating system, with little trouble, reusing interfaces and classes. Until I get something that can allow me to do the same thing, more easily (not that concerned about speed,) then I really couldn't care about switching to anything else for non-time intensive tasks.

I use C++ at work. Maybe you only get really bitter about java until after you've been forced to use it?

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