Post whatever programming language you think sucks the most. Flaming others in this thread is preferable.
You can also post whatever programming language is the best, however if you post that it's Java or some other faggoty shit I'll assume you meant it was the worst.
kthx
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Anonymous2006-03-31 12:36 (sage)
Fact: 36 is an idiot
Oh noes, Yahoo is built by children!
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Anonymous2006-03-31 14:54
I don't think it's unwise to use PHP for web applications
Enjoy having your web server haxed.
I have an awesome idea: let's just drop PHP and Perl, and use Python and Ruby instead! Wow!
PHP: fucking idiotic language. Several thousand functions and security holes galore! You're encouranged to mix code and content too! Like, totally rad, dude!
Perl: fucking insane language. You can do anything in it, but only if you love reading manuals because you forgot one of the five million minutiae of the language.
>>42
You must be the sucky one if you don't know how to prevent this.
>>43
Yahoo! trashed their own application server modelled after ColdFusion and now they use a modified version of PHP in many parts of their site. I think Google uses it somewhere too.
>>47
Even easier: don't use a computer. If you can't produce some decent code (as in secure, templated, well structured, readable, and maintainable) in a language as easy as PHP then you better work on something else.
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Anonymous2006-04-01 16:53
>>48 No, if you're using a language where you're spending more time compensating for its' faults than producing functional code, then you are clearly using the wrong language. This is where perl and php both fail. You should not have to think about the language, beyond "how do I do the tasks I have outlined". In superior languages you focus on creating solutions, and not in working around the artificial limitations (eg, readability). This is why, ultimately, VB is superior; it lets you get shit done, end of story.
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Anonymous2006-04-01 17:42
>>44
When you get the major web hotels to start providing support for Python and Ruby, I'll be right behind you. Til then, I'm sticking with PHP
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Anonymous2006-04-01 17:53
A few questions and comments:
PHP isn't going anywhere. For quite some time. It has waaay to many users and programmers. PHP/MySQL is one of the most commonly used web technology there is.
Perl seems to be sticking around for legacy reasons (is anyone actually learning Perl theses days, instead of Ruby or Python?)
Neither of these are flawless, true, but the userbase is still big. (Googlefight says 1.6 billion hits for PHP and 400 million for Perl)
Personally I only took the time to learn PHP and Python, using Python only for scripting, since it's a tad harder to integrate with a web page and a lot harder to get support from any web hotel for.
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Anonymous2006-04-02 16:01
I've been trying to figure out PHP, and it's seriously way to hard. How do you connect to a db, or even go from a php file to an html file? It's almost as bad as Perl, for fuck's sake.
>>49
HAHAHAHA
You bashing PHP then claiming VB is Jap- er superior? I thought you were going to mention LISP or something like that, where I'd partly agree and partly disagree, but VB is a shit language. It has the disadvantages of scripting languages and none of the advantages of them. Any PHP, Perl, Python or Ruby are better in many ways, unless you want a Windows GUI application.
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Anonymous2006-04-03 6:32
>>49
Whoa, I missed this one. Comment time: I'm a OMG PROFESSIONAL (read: I get paid to do it) VB programmer. I'm here to inform you that I spend most of my time working around the failings of the language. Even in those rare circumstances when I'm not trying to do something that the language won't allow me to, I still get tripped up by retarded syntax issues, such as having different syntax for assigning objects (set foo = bar instead of just foo = bar) and differentiating between subs and functions as a syntactic level. WTF is the point, it serves absolutely no purpose other than to trip the programmer up.
PHP is fuck simple. You gotta fail hard not to get it. To use a database, I suggest an intermediate layer like ADOdb so you don't depend on a single database. You don't go from a PHP file to an HTML file; if you need to output text you just echo it or exit PHP mode with ?> and write whatever you want. The former is recommended for large sites, the later for quick hacks.
ASP sucks balls. It's propietary, it's costly, and I bet it won't scale nearly as good. PHP is extremely simple, free, offers different SAPIs, and has a far more regular and nice syntax than VB, besides far more features.
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Anonymous2006-04-03 12:22
>>59
With ASP.net, you can choose pretty much any language that compiles to into the .net framework.
ASP, on the other hand, is simply annoying.
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Anonymous2006-04-03 12:24
>>59
I concur. ASP does in fact suck balls and you have to be at least 89% fail to suck at PHP.
>>55
VB is for people learning to program and hobbyists. There is no such thing as serious business with VB.
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Anonymous2006-04-03 14:04
c++ i guess....
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Anonymous2006-04-03 14:18
>>61
There are "serious businesses" out there writing apps in VB. And without exception they all produce crummy, buggy, ugly, unmaintainable code. Those that don't go out of business only stay afloat because they write software for some niche market where they have literally no competitors.
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Anonymous2006-04-03 21:32
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'Serious business.
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Anonymous2006-04-08 9:52
>>63
Because stupid managers think that programming is magic and so the developers have no choice but to continue using their prototype instead of doing it properly.