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emacs or vi

Name: Anonymous 2006-01-08 23:50

Emacs rooz. Bring it on vi kids~

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-03 6:19

>>170
Yes, it's hard, because you don't have menus for the less frequent tasks you don't remember what goddamned commands and keys did they use; because the online help sucks grossly; because it doesn't have anything in common with other editors you may already know; because configuring it is just insane; because the several modes and how everything is done is absolutely insane and illogical; and several other reasons I'm surely missing right now. Oh and HJKL is more Unix retardedness. Why not WSAD, like all rational beings would use?

>>171
You even need a command to join lines. Talk about useless editors. I don't want to work for the editor, I want the editor to work for me.

>>174
One shouldn't need a manual to use a text editor. The interface should be self-explanatory and should show you the hotkeys so that you'll learn them with use; keys should be logical enough to be figured out once you know a bit; advanced features should have a quick cheat sheet and should be trivial to figure out. Editors like PSPad or UltraEdit can do almost as much as what vim does plus other things vim doesn't, and they never require you to read anything, just play around and in 5 minutes you'll be doing what vim hackers with years of experience manage to do with vim and fap to as a great accomplishment.

>>176
GVim sucks, wish it didn't, but it does.

>>178
Not denying that; but vim and emacs should share the place.

>>180
Use mcedit for goodness sake, it's nearly decent.

>>181
I use modern editors that don't suck and I never even touch the mouse. Mouse is slow. I work fast. If I need to use menus for something I rarely use, I consider the keyboard first.

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