Recommend me a language

I used VB 6 a while ago before I started learning some real languages. However, I still can't get over how much easier it was to make GUI applications in VB, despite how much the language itself sucked. Window toolkits for other languages are horrible to use and rarely come with a real visual editor - Tk sucks ass, Swing sucks ass, win32 API in C is either a pain in the ass or I can't figure out a good way to do it...

I haven't tried MFC or any .NET shit yet. How the hell do people write real Windows apps? Should I try something else?

>>1 You raise an interesting problem. My guess is you want a "better VB". That is a language which is just as good at the things VB is good at, and doesn't have as many of the warts... Well... it turns out that for a particular set of problems (simple little gui apps) VB is better in some areas. So unless you find that you can't do the things you want to in it I doubt you will find another language which you are happy with.

Languages don't all try to solve the same problems. As I said before, VB isn't that bad for simple gui apps. The pain comes when you want to create a bunch of custom widgets to make the display look really nice. Or when you need to build up complex data structures with intresting interactions. Or when things are just too slow. Or threading... The list goes on and on.

I suggest that if you are serious about trying other languges you first work out what you don't like about VB and what kinds of things you would be prepared to live without. If you aren't ready to learn a new way of doing things, and new types of programs that you can create, then don't even bother going over.

You'll end up getting pissed off and going back to VB while complaining to everyone that all the other platforms suck and VB is so much better than everything else.