JOIN US!! persons who hate JAVA!!

Seriously though, you gotta be into S&M if you decide to develop something in Java yourself and you'll be doing part of the job.

oh noes :( java is slow. sun should just give up.  Seems very few people in this thread can see any positive side to using java.  Java has a lot of uses in the software industry. If its too slow for your liking, or you dont like the overhead, then no-one is forcing you to use it.  Go use assembly language if that does the job to your satisfaction.  Program your shit in raw binary if that floats your boat.  But if Java does what you need, why avoid it?